To Hell and Back - Dr. Maurice Rawlings

Mathew 7:13-14)
Enter through the narrow gate, for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the Gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few that find it.

13"Menjetek be a szoros kapun! Mert tágas az a kapu, és széles az az út, amely a kárhozatba visz, és sokan vannak, akik azon járnak. 14 Mert szoros az a kapu, és keskeny az az út, amely az életre visz, és kevesen vannak, akik azt megtalálják."

[1st Witness] 1.Szemtanu
There are people that talk about light, there are people that talk about floating above, there are people that talk about warmth and love, I didn’t feel any of that, I felt none of that. I felt untold terror.

Vannak olyan emberek akik beszelnek vilagossagrol beszelnek hogy lebegtek a levegoben, vannak emberek akik beszelnek kimondhatatlan meleg szeretetrol...En nem ereztem semmi ilyesmit. En csak kimondhatatlan rettegest ereztem.

It is very easy to be an atheist when you’re successful, but it’s very difficult to be an atheist when you’re lying on your death bed.

Nagyon konnyu ateistanak / nem hinni istenben/ lenni amikor sikeres vagy, de nagyon nehez ateistanak lenni amikor a halalos agyadon fekszel.

[2nd Witness] 2. Szemtanu
When I came to, Dr. Rawlings said my hair was literally standing on end.

Amikor ideertem Dr. Rawlinghoz a hajam is egnek allt.

[3rd Witness] 3. Szemtanu
It was an incredible experience to see that there is life beyond life.

Hihetetlen volt tapasztalni latni hogy elet van az eleten tul.

[Announcer] Bemondo
Everyday people, like you and me, living their lives one minute and the next they lay dieing, having never known or believed the message of salvation. They traveled from this world to one beyond, but what they found was pure terror. They returned and these are their true stories.

Bemondo

Mindennapi emberek ,mint te meg en elik az eletuket egy percrol a masikra es egyszer csak a halalos agyukon fekszenek nem tudvan vagy nem hittek a megmento /Udvozito/ uzeneteben. Elutaztak ebbol a vilagbol egy masikba de amit talaltak az igazi retteges volt. Visszajottek es ezek az igazi torteneteik.

Renowned Cardiologist and Author, Dr. Maurice Rawlings will take you on a journey that few have ever spoken of.

Neves Szivszakorvos es Iro, Dr Maurice Rawlings elvisz teged egy utazasra amirol csak nagyon kevesen valaha is beszeltek.

[4th Witness]
So I called out into the darkness, “Jesus, please save me!” Because I was either going to Heaven or Hell, there wasn’t anything else.

4. Szemtanu

Szoval kiszoltam a sotetsegbe , " Jezus kerlek kimelj meg engem!" Mert vagy megyek a Mennyekbe vagy a Pokolba , mas lehetoseg nem volt.

[5th Witness]
Hear the voice of one that has heard the screams.

5. Szemtanu

Halld a hangjat annak aki hallotta a sikoltasokat.

[Announcer]
This may be your only chance to safely go to Hell and Back.

Bemondo

Talan ez az egyetlen lehetoseged biztonsagban elmenni a Pokolba es vissza.

[Dr. Rawlings]
This is a study on life after death. All through history man has predicted life after death. All bibles are based on life after death, all religions. But where are these? Who has come back to show us that there is life after death?

Dr. Rawlings

Ez egy kutatas az eletrol a halal utan. Az egesz tortenelmen keresztul az emberek josoltak eletet a halal utan. Minden biblianak az alapja az elet a halal utan minden vallas. De hol vannak? Hol vannak ezek? Ki jott vissza hogy megmutassa hogy elet van a halal utan.

Now through modern resuscitation methods, bringing the heart back, brining breathing back, we can now bring a whole population of people back to talk to us about what’s on the other side of death. See what you think about some of these cases that we are going to present. The good ones are a dime a dozen, because people love to tell about the wonderful experience they had after they died and came back.

Mostmar modern felelesztesi modszereken keresztul hozzuk a szivet vissza mukodesbe, a lelegzest vissza, mostmar vissza tudunk hozni egy csomo embert hogy beszeljenek arrol hogy mi van a halal masik olalan. Nezd meg hogy te mit gondolsz ezekrol az esetekrol amit itt fogunk memutatni. A jok magukert beszelnek , mert emberek szeretnek beszelni a csodalatos elmenyekrol a halaluk utan mikor visszajottek.

The Hell experiences are embarrassing. It’s an F on the report card, a slap in the face. We have some cases of people that will tell you about their own hell experiences, so that you won’t have to go where they went. We mainly want to teach you how to restart the heart; restart the breathing, on someone who has recently died. Notice that death is reversible; you have 4 minutes of viable time before the brain cells start dieing because of the lack of blood flow, and before rigor mortis sets in.

A Pokolba meno tapasztalat megszegyenito. Egyes a bizonyitvanyban. Egy pofonveres. Itt van nehany esetunk amikor emberek elmondjak a sajat pokol tapasztalataikat, hogy neked ne kelljen menned oda ahova ok mentek. Me meg akarjuk tanitani nektek hogy hogy lehet a szivet ujra inditani, a lelegzest ujra inditani valakin aki most halt meg. Tudd hogy a halal visszafordithato; 4 percunk van mielott az agy mukodese teljesen meghal a verhiany kovetkezteben es amielott a teljes hullamerevseg beall.

I have seen 2 deaths, where resurrection was required, something that man can NOT do. We can do resuscitation, something God has permitted us to do. How many hell experiences, have had a person's conversion and salvation while they were on the floor, and the person then only remember the good experiences? This was not the case in Ronald Reagan (Not associated with X-President Ronald Reagan) He had his little boy with him while going to a 7-11 store, he got into an argument, and there was a bottle broken, and he was stabbed multiple times by his assailant.

Lattam 2 halalt ahol csak feltamadas segithetett volna. Amire ember nem kepes. Mi csak ujraeleszresre vagyunk kepesek amit a Joisten engedelyez nekunk. Valyon hany ember tapasztalt pokolbamenetelt megteritest es megmentest a Joisten altal mialatt a foldon fekszenek es csak a jo tapasztalatra emlekeznek. Ez nem tortent Ronal Reagan eseteben. (aki nincs rokonsagban Ronal Reagan-nel) Vele volt a kisfia amikor ment a 7-11 kisuzletbe, egy verekedesbe keveredett es egy uveg tores utan meg lett vagva nehanyszor a tamadoja altal.

===Ronald Reagan ===

[Ronald Reagan]
In 1972 my life was a broken. I was a drug addict. I was a criminal. My family was broken. My wife had filed for divorce a couple of times. My children were afraid of me. I really couldn’t hold a job, my mental state was terrible. It was in this frame of life that I took my 6 year old son to a little market to purchase some things. On the way in, I met a gentlemen coming out the door. An argument erupted and before I knew it I had hit him and knocked him down. He fell into a pile of bottles. The bottle broke and immediately he leaped up with a broken bottle and began to stab at me. I lifted my left arm to try to stop the blow, and the bottle severed my biceps muscle & the major arteries in my arm. I was bleeding to death in a matter of seconds. But full of anger, hatred and rage, I kept fighting and it kept bleeding. My little son was screaming, he was hysterical.

Ronald Reagan

1972-ben az eletem teljesen ossze volt torve. Kabitoszert szedtem. Egy bunozo voltam. A csaladi eletem szet volt esve. A felesegem ketszer inditott valopert. A gyerekeim feltek tolem. Igazan nem tudtam megtartani semmi allast a lelki allapotom borzalmas volt. Ebben az allapotban a 6 eves kisfiammal mentem a kisuzletbe hogy vegyek egy nehany dolgot. Ahogy mentunk befele talkoztam egy urral aki jott kifele. Egy szovaltas kerekedett es mielott eszrevettem volna megutottem es leesett a foldre. Beleesett egy csomo uvegek kozepebe. Az uvegek tortek es rogton felugrott egy torott uveggel es kezdett engem szurkalni. Felemeltem a bal karomat hogy megallitsam az utest es az uveg szetvagta a bicepsz izmomat & es a fo ereket a karomban. Majdnem elvereztem de tele haraggal utalattal es az orjongestol csak harcoltam tovabb es kozben vereztem. A kisfiam sikoltozott hiszterikus volt.

The owner of the 7-11 store came over and said that if I didn’t get to a hospital, I’ll would bleed to death in just a few minutes. So he took me in my own car to the hospital. When we entered the emergency room, I was barely conscious. As the medical staff began to work on me, I could hear their voices, they were saying, “We can’t help him. He’ll have to be transported to another hospital. Probably we’ll loose the arm.” By the time they loaded me into the ambulance, my wife had arrived and went with us in the ambulance. But as they pulled out of the parking lot of that hospital, a young paramedic looked down into my face, and I could barely see I was so weak. He said “Sir, you need Jesus Christ” But I didn’t know Jesus, I didn’t know what he was talking about, so my reaction to that was to begin cursing. And again he stated to me, “You need Jesus!”

A 7-11 uzlet tulajdonosa kijott es mondta hogyha nem megyek a korhazba el fogok verezni csak egy par percen belul, szoval omaga elvitt engem a sajat autommal a korhazba. Amikor beertunk a segely-szobaba alig voltam magamnal. Ahogy az orvosok kezdtek dolgozni rajtam , hallottam a hangjukat, azt mondtak, " mi nem tudunk rajta segiteni. El kell szallitani egy masik korhazba. Valoszinuleg el fogjuk vesziteni a karjat." Mire beraktak a mento autoba a felesegem is megerkezett es jott velunk a mento autoban. Ahogy fordultunk kifele a korhaz parkolojabol a fiatal rohammentos ramnezett es en alig lattam mar mert olyan gyenge voltam. Es azt mondta, uram onnek Jezusra van szuksege" De ennekem fogamam sem volt Jesus-rol nem tudtam hogy mirol beszel soval a reakciom az volt hogy el kezdtem karomkodni. Es o ujra azt mondta. "Onnek Jezus-ra van szuksege"

As he was talking to me, it appeared that the ambulance literally blew up in flames. I though it had actually blown up. It filled with smoke and immediately I was moving through that smoke, as if through a tunnel. After some period of time, coming out of the smoke and out of the darkness I began to hear the voices of a multitude of people. They were screaming, groaning and Crying. But as I was looking down, it appeared like a volcanic opening. I saw fire, smoke and people inside of this burning place. They were screaming and crying, they were burning, but they weren’t burning up, they weren’t being consumed. Then I began moving downward into this opening.

Mialatt beszelt hozzam ugy tunt hogy a mento auto valojaban tuzbe lobbant. Azt gondoltam hogy felrobbant. Feltelitodott fusttel es en rogton mentem keresztul a fuston minta egy alaguton mennek keresztul. Egy ido utan mikor kijottem a fustboles a sotetsegbol el kezdtem hallani a hangjat sok sok embernek. Sikoltoztak nyoszorogtek, sirtak. Akkor en elkezdtem lefele haladni ebbe a nyilasba.

[Wife, Elaine Reagan]
He was thrashing, just thrashing about, moaning and groaning. It was like a battle was going on. I wasn’t a Christian at the time, and I didn’t know anything about spiritual battles. But it was scary to me because I could feel it. It was like light and darkness. It was like he was fighting against something. I didn’t know what, but now I know, he was seeing the vision of hell.

Felesege, Elaine Reagan

Csak csapkolodott nyoszorgott jobbra balra. Ugy nezett ki mintha harcolna belul. En nem voltam Kereszteny ebben az idoben szoval nem tudtam semmit lelki haborurol. De ijeszto volt a szamomra mert szinte en is ereztem. Olyan volt mintha sotetseg es vilagossag lett volna. Olyan volt mintha harcolt volna valami ellen. Nem tudtam akkor, de mostmar tudom hogy egy latomasa volt a Pokolrol.

[Ronald Reagan]
But the terrible thing was that I began to recognize many of the people that were in these flames. It was like a camera lens was showing me their faces, close up. I could see their features, I could see their agony, pain and frustration. A number of them began to call my name, and said “Ronny, don’t come to this place, there is no way out. There is no escape if you come here, no way out.

I looked into the face of one man who had died in a robbery attempt, he had been shot and bleed to death on the sidewalk. I looked into the face of two others who had died drunk in an automobile accident. I looked into the face of others who had died of drug overdoses, that we partied together. They showed agony and pain, but I believe that the most painful part was the loneliness. The depression was so heavy, that there was no hope, no escape, there was not way out of this place. The smell was like sulfur, like an electric welder, the stench was terrible.

Ronald Reagan

A legborzastobb az volt hogy elkezdtem felimerni sok embert a langokban. Olyan volt mintha egy kameranak a lencseje mutatta volna az arcukat kozelrol. Lattam az arcvonasaikat, a kinlodasaikat, fajdalmaikat gyotrelmeiket. Nehanyan el kezdtek szolitani engem a nevemen es mondtak " Ronny ne gyere ide erre a helyre innet nincs visszaut. Nincs innet menekules ha idejossz, nincs kiut." Beleneztem az arcaba egy ferfinek aki meghalt egy rablas soran le lett love es elverzett a jardan. Beleneztem az arcaba ket masiknak akik meghaltak egy autobaleset soran reszegen. Beleneztem az arcaba megint egy masiknak aki meghalt kabitoszertol egyutt partiztunk. Lattam a gyotrelmuket a fajdalmukat de en azt hiszem hogy alegfajdalmasabb volt az egyedullet. A depresszio olyan sulyos volt nem volt semmi remeny, kiut,vagy menekules errol a helyrol. A szag olyan volt mint a kenes szag, mint egy elektromos hegeszto, a buz borzaszto volt.

In my life, I had seen people killed, I had been involved in fights where people were killed. I’ve done time in prison for manslaughter. I grew up in a reform school, and in a jail cell. I was beat unmercifully as a child by a father that had temper and alcohol problems. I was a runaway at 12 years old and I felt that there was nothing in this world that could frighten me. My life was wrecked, my marriage was wrecked, my health was wrecked. But now I was seeing something that scared me to death, because I didn't understand it. And as I am looking into this pit, this place of fire, screams and torment, I fade out into blackness.

When I opened my eyes, I was in a hospital room in Knoxville, Tennessee with my wife is sitting by. There had been multiple stitches put into my body, my arm was spared. I had almost 100 stitches. I looked into the face of my wife. I wasn’t concerned about where I was, or anything around me. All I could visualize was what I had just seen.

Az eletemben lattam embereket megolve, voltam verekedesben ahol emberek meghaltak. Voltam bortonben emberolesert. Javitoiskolaban novekedtem fel es borton cellaban. Meg voltam verve konyortelenulgyerekkent az apam altal akinek alkohol es mereg problemaja volt. Megszoktem otthonrol 12 eves koromban es ugy ereztem hogy semmi az eletben engem nem tud megijeszteni. Az eletem ossze volt torve a hazassagom ossze volt torve az egeszsegem ossze volt torve. De most lattam valamit ami halalra ijesztett engem mert nem ertettem. Es ahogy nezek bele ebbe a pokolba ebbe a tuzbe, sikoltasba es gyotredelembe, Beleolvadtam a sotetsegbe.

Amikor kinyitottam a szememet egy korhazi szobaban voltam Knoxville Tennessee-ben a felesegemmel aki mellettem ult. Bennem volt egy csomo kapocs a testemben es a karom is meg lett mentve. Majdnem 100 kapocs volt bennem. En nem aggodtam amiatt hogy hol voltam vagy hogy mi van korulottem. Csak azt lattam magam elott amit az iment lattam.

[Elaine Reagan]
He had this funny look on his face, and it was a terrifying look. And he said, “I don’t really know what’s happening to me, but I’ve been in a terrible place.” And I kept telling him “you’ve been in the hospital, you’ve been in the hospital all this time.” And he kept saying, “No, I’ve been in another place. I don’t know exactly what is was, but it was a terrible, terrible place.”

Elain Reagan

Olyan kulonos volt az arca, lattam rajta a remuletet. Es azt mondta " Nem tudom hogy mi tortenik velem de egy rettenetes helyen voltam" Es en tovabbra is csak mondtam neki hogy te a korhazban vagy, de o csak mondta es mondta nekem " Nem en egy retteneteshelyen jartam"

[Ronald Reagan]
I could still hear the screams. I could still smell the terrible smell. I could still feel the heat, and I could still hear the voices of people that I’ve known screaming for me to go back. Through the days to come, I tried every way to get that out of my mind. I tried to get drunk, I could not get drunk. I tried to get stoned, I could not get stoned, I tried everything that I could to get this off my mind and I could not.

Meg most is hallom a sikoltozast. Meg most is erzem a rettenetes szagot. Meg most is erzem a forrosagot es meg most is halloma hangjat az embereknek akiket felismertem ahogy sikoltottak nekem hogy menjek vissza. Azota is, megprobaltam elfelejteni. Megprobaltam leinni magam nem tudtam. Megprobaltam bekabitoszerezni nem tudtam, megprobaltam mindent hogy elfelejtsem de nem tudtam.

One morning, several months later, I came home to where my wife was. I had been trying to get drunk, but I couldn’t. When I walked in the house and went back to the bedroom, the light was on. My wife was sitting up in bed, and she had a large book open on her lap. She looked up at me and her face was literally shining. And she said, “Ronny, tonight I accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my savior,"

Egy reggel nehany honap mulva, hazaertem a felesegem otthon volt. Megprobaltam leinni magam de nem tudtam. Amikor beleptem a hazba es bementem a szobaba a villany fel volt kapcsolva. A felesegem ult az agyon es az arca fenylett. Es azt mondta, "Ronny tegnap este en megkertem Jezust hogy jojjon az eletembe"

She didn’t have to say a lot to me, our life had been filled with agony. She grew up in Chicago; her father was a bartender on the South side of Chicago. She knew nothing about God, or church or religion. The pain in her face, the wrinkles that I gave her from my abuse, violence, alcoholism, and drug addiction. Sometimes I would be gone for months of time, and she and the kids would have no idea where I was. But now her face had changed. The wrinkles were literally were gone, a smile had replaced the sorrow and agony. She looked at me and said, “Jesus saved me tonight. Would you go with me and hear about this man called Jesus.” I though to myself, “I tried everything else in life, nothing has worked for me. The people I love the most, my wife, my children, I’m terrible to them." So I agreed to go with her.

Nem kellett hogy sokat mondjon nekem miutan az eletunk teljes katasztrofa. O Chicago-ban nott fel az apja egy csapos volt Chicago deli oldalan. O sem tudott semmit Istenrol vagy templomrol vagy vallasrol. A fajdalom az arcan a rancok amit en okoztam neki adurva banasmodommal a serteseimmel, az ivasommal es a kabitoszerrel. Neha nem is jottem haza honapokig es oneki meg a gyerekeknek fogalmuk sem volt rola hogy hol voltam. De most az arca megvaltozott. A rancok szinte teljesen eltuntek, egy mosolygott szomorkodas es gyotrelem helyett. Ram nezett es azt mondta "Jezus megmentett ma engem. Eljonnel velem hogy halljunk errol az emberrol Jezus-rol." Erre azt gondoltam, En mar megprobaltam mindent az eletben semmi sem dolgozott nekem. Azok akiket a legjobban szeretek a felesegem gyerekeim borzaszto vagyok veluk" Szoval azt mondtam legyen.

A couple of weeks later on a Sunday morning, November 2, 1972, just before 12 am, a minister stood to read from the bible. I was sitting in the back of the building, I didn’t know anything out of the bible. I didn’t know how to act to church. But the minister stood to read from the bible, and he read from the Gospel of John. He began to read these words “behold the lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world.” When he said “the Lamb” he had my attention. It wouldn’t have meant anything to me, any other passage, but when he mentioned “the Lamb” he had this hard hearted sinner’s attention.

Egy nehany het mulva egy Vasarnap reggel, 1972 November 2. 12 ora elott, egy pap olvasott a bibliabol. En leghatul ultem, es semmit sem tudtam a bibliabol. Nem tudtam hogy hogy kell viselkedni a templomban. De a pap ahogy allt es olvasott a bibliabol es olvasott a Janos konyvebol. Igy kezdte "Íme, az Isten Báránya, aki hordozza a világ bűnét! Amikor azt mondta barany odafigyeltem. Semmit sem jelentett volna nekem de amikor ezt mondta elkapta ezt a bunos lelkemet.

Because when I was 9 years old, a very poor child in the mountains of eastern Tennessee, with a father who only knew anger, abuse and alcohol, a neighbor had given me a baby lamb. And I had to walk two miles to catch the school bus. One day coming through her yard she stopped me and said, “Son I have a gift for you” and she showed me this baby lamb.

Azert mert amikor 9 eves voltam egy nagyon szegeny gyermek a hegyekben eszak Tennessee-ben, egy apaval aki csak haragot, durva banasmodot es ivast ismert egy szomszedunk adott nekem egy kis baranyt. Ahogy gyalogoltam hazafele 2 mile-t hogy elerjem az iskolabuszt. Egy napon amikor jottem keresztul az o telken o megallitott engem es azt mondta, " Kisfiam van egy kis ajandekom neked" es o megmutatta nekem ezt a kis baranyt.

I took that lamb home with me, it was my friend, the only friend I felt like I had. It was such a friend, in the days and weeks to come it followed me, and it would meet me when I got off the school bus. It came walking through the woods and fields to meet me.

Hazavittem a kisbaranyt es ugy ereztem hogy ez a kisbarany volt az egyetlen baratom. Heteken keresztul csak jott velem kovetett es vart ram amikor megerkeztem az iskola busszal. Jott ki az erdobol hogy talalkozzon velem.

One evening as I came home, the lamb was missing. I heard my father cursing and screaming, he was working on an old model car, changing a flat tire by hand, the old way. I tried to walk around him because I didn’t want to be cursed. I tried to bypass him, but when I got on the other side of the car, I looked down and there was my lamb with blood all over the white wool. There was a tire rod sticking in its body.

Egy delutan amikor jottem haza, a barany nem volt ott. Hallottam az apamat karomkodni es orditani, egy oreg auto dolgozott hogy lecserelje a lukas kereket a regi modon. Ki akartam kerulni mert nem akartam hogy karomkodjon ram. Megprobaltam elhagyni, de amikor odaertem az auto masik oldalara, leneztem es ott volt a baranykam teljesen veresen a feher szoren. Egy kerek kulcs volt hozzaragadva a testehez.

The lamb had come around just wanting to be curious, and in a drunken fit of anger, my father had plunged the tire iron though that lamb.

A barany csak korbejott kivancsisagbol es egy reszeg orjongo pillanataban az apam belevagta a kerekkulcsot a baranyba.

**When I saw my lamb, my friend, dead, I began to scream. I ran into the woods screaming, “he’s killed my lamb, he’s killed the lamb!”**

Amikor meglattam a baranykamat elkezdtem sikoltozni. Berohantam az erdobe sikoltozva, "megolte a baranyomat, megolte a baranyomat"

At 9 years old, hatred and violence took my life, possessed my life. From that point on, I was never ever the same. By 12 years old I was a runaway. I was in the Juvenile system, arrested time after time. I had no respect for authority. I hated anyone that represented authority over me. By the time I was 15 years old, I had been in Jail for car theft, for stealing. At 15 years old I was sentenced for manslaughter; being involved in a car accident that had killed some and left others crippled. At that time I wondered if life would ever hold anything for me.

9 evesen utalat mereg vett erot rajtam. Attol kezdve soha nem voltam ugyanaz. 12 evesen mar elszoktem otthonrol. 15 mar voltam gyermekjavitoban is es bortonben auto lopasert, lopasert. 15 evesen eliteltek emberolesert egy autobaleset miatt amiben nehanyan meghaltak es masok meg megrokkantak. Azon gondolkodtam hogy valyon ez az elet tartogat-e nekem valamit.

But when that minister mentioned “The Lamb” he had my attention. He said that Jesus Christ was God’s lamb, and He died and shed His blood so that whosoever wants to, can have a new start. They could be forgiven and start over.

De amikor a pap kimondta a szot hogy barany odafigyeltem. Azt monta hogy az Isten baranya elveszi a vilag bunet hogy aki akar uj eletet kezdhessen.

That morning, as I stood to try to leave the building, I thought, “I don’t want anybody to see me cry. I haven't cried since I was 9 years old. I’m not afraid of any living thing on this Earth, and no one is going to see me cry."

Azon a napon ahogy el akartam menni onnet, arra gondoltam "En nem akarom hogy barki is lasson engem sirni. Nem sirtam 9 eves koro ota. En mar nem felek senkitol sem ezen a foldon es senki sem fog engem latni sirni.

I turned to leave, but instead I started down the isle toward the front of that building. I didn’t know the sinners prayer, I didn’t know the Roman road of salvation. But my prayer was this, “God, if You exist, and Jesus, if You are God’s lamb, please, please kill me or cure me. I don’t want to live anymore, I’m not a husband, I’m not a father, I’m no good.” And at that instant, it was like the darkness and the blackness left my life. Then the tears began to flow and for the first time since I was 9 years old, the tears did run. The guilt left my life, the violence, anger and the hatred left my life. And Jesus Christ became Lord and savior of my life that morning.

Elfordultam hogy indulok de ehelyett elindultam a pap fele. Nem tudtam a bunosok imajat nem tudtam a megvaltas utjarol. De ezt imadkoztam, " Istenem hogy ha igazan letezel kerlek hogy vagy gyogyits meg engem vagy pedig olj meg engem. En nem akarok elni tovabb. En nem vagy sem a ferj sem egy apa en mar semmi sem vagyok." Abban a pillanatban ugy ereztem mintha a sotetseg a feketeseg elhagyta volna az eletemet. A konnyeim kezdtek zuhogni es eloszor 9 eves korom ota sirtam. A buntudat elhagyta az eletemet a duhonges az utalat elhagyott. Es Jezus megvaltotta az eletemet azon a reggelen.

Since that time I didn’t know what would happen. God healed my mind, my memory, the drug addiction; the alcoholism was instantaneously gone, delivered. And for that moment I knew I had to tell the story of what had happened to me. My life was only spared to tell others about the place that I had seen, and the hope of Jesus Christ to save mankind from this terrible fate.

Nem tudtam hogy mi fog velem tortenni de a Joisten meggyogyitotta a tudatomat az agyamat elvette a kabitoszert az alkohol rogton eltunt az eletembol. Ettol a perctol kezdve tudom hogy el kell mondjam mindenkinek hogy mi tortent velem. Az eletem csak azert lett megmentve hogy elmondjam masoknak amit lattam azt a borzaszto helyet hogy remelhetoleg Jezus megmentse az emberiseget ettol az iszonyatos vegzettol.

[Dr. Rawlings]
Here we are again wondering whether hell is for the bad guys or the good guys. I would like to introduce the subject OBE (Out of Body Experience) NDE (Near Death Experience). You know what clinical death is, where the heart stops, breathing stops, and we start life again. Restart the breathing and the Heart, and a person comes back from death to life. A reversible situation before rigor mortis sets in.

Dr. Rawlings

Itt vagyunk megint gondolkodunk hogy a pokol csak a rossz embereknek van vagy a jo embereknek. Be szeretnek mutatni a klinikai halal esetet.( OBE) Amikor a klinikai halal beall akkor a sziv megall a lelegzes leall es ekkor inditjuk az szivet ujra. Ujrainditjuk a szivet a lelegzest es ekkor az illeto visszajon a halalbol az eletbe. Egy visszafordithato folyamat mielott a teljes merevedes beall.

But Out of Body Experiences and Near Death Experiences are entirely different. Near Death of Experience are like if I hold a gun up to you and say “give me your money.” You may get scared to death (a near death experience), but you don’t get anywhere near dying. Almost near crash accidents, are near death experience, but there is nothing involving stopping the heart or stopping breathing. And yet, most of the authors that write books on this subject are including OBE and NDE without clinical death. We are just investigating clinical death, where people actually die and come back.

A halal kozeli elmeny nem ugyanaz akkor amikor valakinek van egy halal kozeli elmenye mint pl. en rafogogok valakire egy fegyvert es kovetelem hogy add ide a penzedet, mert ebben az esetben te egyaltalan kozelebe sem jossz a halalnak. Lehet hogy halalra ijesztelek de a kozelebe sem mesz a halalnak. Kozeli auto baleseteknel emberek kozel vannak a halal kozeli elmenyhez, de igazan semmi sem allitja le a szivet vagy a lelegzest. Igazabol Irok akik irnak konyveket ebben a temaban altalaban a halal kozeli elmenyrol irnak amit mi nyomozunk a klinikai halal esetet amikor emberek igazabol meghalnak es visszajonnek a halalbol.

Now Out of Body Experiences is a way to get there without dying. How would you like to find out what death feels like, without dying?

Tulajdonkeppen van egy lehetoseg ide eljutni. Szeretned tudni hogy milyen ez az erzes halal nelkul?

Deep hypnosis can get you there.
Mely hipnotizacio eljuttathat ide.
You can go see a guru over in India, learning meditation techniques with a mantra.
Felkereshetsz egy tudos embert is Indiaban hogy megtanuld a technikajat
You can have chemical hypnosis.
Beindithatsz kemikai hipnozist
You can go Skrying with a crystal ball.
Belenezhetsz az Uveggombbe is
You can have electrical stimulus of the brain.
Elektromosan is osztonozheted az agyrendszert
[Please don’t get involved with any of these.]
[Legyszives ne probald ki egyik lehetoseget se]

There are many ways of getting out of the body, to experience life beyond the body, separating the spirit from the body. This is the definition in the Bible, when the spirit separates from the body. But we are talking about a permanent separation, not a man-made separation. And we are not talking about NDEs or OBEs, we are talking about clinical death. This is where the great majority of people have true experiences.

Sok fele keppen elo lehet idezni a klinikai halalt elvalasztani a lelket a testtol. Ez az igazi jelentese a bibliaban amikor a lelek elhagyja a testet. De akkor mi egy orokkevalo szetvalasrol beszelunk es nem egy ember altali szetvalasrol. Mi most errol a klinikai halalrol beszelunk. Ez az a situacio amikor az emberek nagy tobbsege tapasztal egy igazi halal kozeli elmenyt.

=== Charles McKaig ===

One of the cases is Charles McKaig, a 57 year old mail carrier. He was having chest pains. We took him to the office; put him on the tread mill, until he got his chest pain again. He was attached to an EKG. (Electrocardiogram/heart monitor), the EKG went haywire. We knew he had chest pains, but before we could stop the machine, he dropped dead.

Az egyik esetben Charles McKaig egy 57 eves postas. Mellkasi fajdalmakat tapasztalt. Bevittuk az orvosi rendelobe es raalitottuk a gyaloglogepre amig a mellkasi fajdalom ujra jelentkezett. Hozza volt kapcsolva a gephez ami merte a szive dobogasat. Egyszer csak a gep majdhogynem megzavarodott es mielott meg tudtuk volna allitani a gepet osszeesett es meghalt.

But when he dropped dead, he had a very peculiar situation. He convulsed like most people do when they first die and the heart stops providing blood to the brain. His eyes rolled up, he turned blue, he stopped breathing. The nurse started an IV and I started an external heart massage. The strangest thing happened, when I stopped resuscitating to put in a pace maker.

De amikor meghalt az volt az erdekes hogy eloszor el kezdett rangatodzni mint a legtobb ember de tobbnyire ilyen esetben a sziv megszunteti a vercirculaciot az agyhoz. A szeme felakadt elkekult es megallt a lelegzese. Az apolono es en elkezdtuk a sziv masszirozasat. Ekkor a legfurcsabb dolog tortent amikor megalltam a visszaelesztessel.

[Charles McKaig]
When I came to, Dr. Rawlings said my hair was literally standing on end, and my eyes had already started dilating. I was absolutely scared to death, I was horrified.

Amikor bejottem a Dr.urhoz a hajam szinte egnek allt es a szemeim kezdtek kitagulni. Teljesen el voltam borzadva.

My life was very normal, I partied a lot. I had joined a church at a young age, because of my parents. I really didn’t realize what church was about, or what accepting Christ was about.

Az eletemet mindig normalisan eltem szerettem partizni sokat. Tagja voltam egy templomnak de csak gyerek koromban csak a szuleim vegett.. Nem ertettem hogy mi a helyzet a templombajarassal vagy hogy mit jelent az hogy Megvaltas.

Early one morning at work I had walked to the local clinic in my hometown. At that time I thought I might be having a heart attack. So then I met Dr. Rawlings. He kept me for about 3 or 4 days. And then he gave me a stress test. I remember while taking it I felt like I really wanted to get off, and that was the last thing I remember of that.

Egy reggel elmentem a kozeli orvoshoz a szulovarosomban. Arra gyanakodtam hogy szivbajom lehet. Talalkoztam Dr. Rawlings-al. Ott tartott engem kb.3-4 napig es csinalt rajtam egy stressz test-et. Cak arra emlekszem hogy nagyon le akartam jonni a geprol es ez volt az utolso dolog amire emlekezem.

When I came to, Dr. Rawlings was giving me CPR, and he asked me what was the matter, because I was looking so scared. I told him that I had been to hell and I need help! He said to me, “keep your hell to yourself, I’m a doctor and I’m trying to save your life, you need a minister for that.” As he was giving me CPR, he was trying to install a pacemaker with the other hand. And I would fade out every so often, so then he would focus CPR again and bring me back.

Dr. Rawlings kezdte az ujra elesztesemet es kerdezte hogy mi tortent mert latta hogy nagyon rettegek. Akkor mondtam neki hogy a pokolban voltam es segitsen nekem!" O azt mondta nekem hogy arra egy papra van szuksegem es o csak engem probal engem megmenteni ." Ahogy probalt engem ujraeleszteni hogy berakjon egy szivstabilizalot gyakran elajultam amikor ujra kellett hogy elesszen megint.

I was soon floating in the air, watching what was going on, looking down. Whenever I would come back to my body, I kept asking, “Please help me, please help me, I don’t want to go back to hell.” Soon a nurse named Pam said, “He needs help, do something!” At that time, Dr. Rawlings told me to repeat this short prayer. “I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus, save my soul. Keep me alive. If I die, please keep me out of hell!”

Hamarosan erztem hogy lebegek a levegoben, neztem lefele hogy mi tortenik velem. Amikor eszhez tertem mindig konyorogtem a Dr-nak hogy "segitsen nekem, mert nem akarok visszamenni a pokolba" Hamarosa egy apolono a neve Pam azt mondta. Valamifele segitsegert konyorog" Ekkor Dr, Rawlings azt mondta hogy mondjam utana ezt az imat. " Jezus en hiszem hogy te az isten Fia vagy kerlek ments meg engem tartsal engem eletben ha meghalok ne engedd hogy a pokolba menjek."

After that, the other fading out experiences were very pleasant. I saw my stepmother, my mother. My mom passed away when I was about 5 months old. I never saw a photograph of her. My stepmother passed away about 10 years ago. I did not have any contact with them. All I could remember was that they kept their hands reached out to me.

Ezutan minden kellemes lett. Lattam a mostoha anyamat, az edesanyamat. O meghalt amikor en voltam 5 months old. Soha sem lattam meg egy kepet sem rola. A mostoha anyam meghalt kb. 10 evvel ezelott. Soha nem voltam veluk kontaktusban. Csak arra emlekszem hogy nyujtottak a kezuket felem.

I’ve heard it said that you couldn’t carry money with you, and when I was with my mother and stepmother, I saw they had no pockets. I know that sounds weird but I was trying to remember everything I saw.

Sokszor hallottam hogy a a penzunket nem visszuk magunkkal es mikor lattam a mostoha anyamat es az edes anyamat lattam hogy nincsen zsebuk. Tudom hogy furcsan hangzik de probaltam amire csak lehet emlekezni amit latok.

After that, I remember walking down a lane that had colors on both sides, brilliant colors. I had a little experience in Art, but nobody, not ever Rembrandt could reproduce those colors, they were so bright. There was this light that surrounded me, I believe it was the Holy Spirit. It surrounded me and took care of me. I’ve never felt so good and so safe in my whole life.

Ezutan arra emlekszem hogy mentem egy uton ahol ahol mindket oldalon az ut vibraloan szines volt. Egy kicsi ismeretem volt a muveszetben de azt tudom hogy senki meg Rembrandt sem tudna utanozni ezeket a szineket amit lattam olyan fenyesek voltak. Egy feny vett korul engem gondoskodott rolam. En meg soha eletemben nem ereztem magam ilyen biztonsagban.

[Dr. Rawlings]
After this was all over, I realized what really happened. It was a double conversion. Not only had this make-believe prayer converted this atheist on the floor, it had also converted this atheist doctor that was working on him. (Dr. Rawlings pointing toward himself) That is the only reason I can appear to you now, to tell you that there is a life after death. And it is NOT all good.

Amikor mindez lezajlott akkor vettem eszre hogy mi tortent. Ez egy dupla megterites volt. Ez az mondva csinalt ima nem csak ezt a hitetlen teritette meg a foldon, hanem megteritette ezt a hitetlen Dr-t aki dolgozott a megmentesen.[ mutatvan magara Dr. Rawlings] Ez az egyetlen oka annak hogy itt vagyok hogy elmondjam hogy van elet a halal utan. Es nem csak jo.

Most of you can tell the difference between simple fading, clinical death and biologic death. Take the case of Charles McKaig. He was on the treadmill and I could tell that he was in clinical death. He had a startled question on his face, he was about to ask the question and was looking dumbfounded at me. As he was walking on the treadmill I noticed that his heart had stopped and his breathing has stopped. He was still walking and talking for a minute or two before the lack of blood to the brain caused him to drop dead. He was dead and didn’t even know it. I should have told him.

Tobbnyire mindannyian tudjuk a kulonbseget a klinikai halal es a biologiai halal kozott. Ennek az embernek az eseteben amikor a gyaloglogepen allt lattam a monitoron hogy klinikailag meghalt. Egy furcsa vonas volt az arcan akart kerdezni valamit amikor lehetett latni a monitoron hogy a szive es a lelegzese is megallt. Ezek utan meg mindig csak gyalogolt egy vagy ket percig amikor az agy verhianya miatt osszeesett. Halott volt es nem is tudta. Talan meg kellett volna hogy mondjam neki.

Soon we started clinical death treatment, CPR. We started the heart up again, we started the breathing again and he came back. This was clearly clinical death. Now biologic death would have occurred if 4-6 minutes time had passed after clinical death. Because of the lack of oxygen to the brain, the brain cells die; they are the most sensitive cells in the body. Then rigor mortis sets in and the person becomes stiff as a board. And now we need resurrection, only God can do resurrection. We can only do resuscitation. Something we are permitted to do.

Surgosen elkezdtuk a klinikai halal elesztesi modot elinditottuk a szivet a lelegzest es vissza kapta az eszmeletet. Ez egy totalis klinikai halal volt. Biologiaihalal akkor lett volna ha eltelt volna tobb mint 4-6 perc.Mert akkor mar az agy nem kap levegot es a teljes megmerevedes beall. Ekkor mar csak feltamadas lehetseges amit csak az Isten kepes csinalni. Mi csak ujraelesztesre vagyunk kepesek ami nekunk engedelyezett.

=== Howard Storm ===

Howard Storm was an art a literary professor who was in Paris with his class, when he suddenly had a stomach rupture, ulcer rupture, peritonitis, shock, sudden death, clinical death, resuscitation, and hell experience.

Howard Storm volt egy Irodalom Professzor aki az osztalyaval volt Parizsban amikor hirtelen tapasztalt egy kegyetlen gyomorfalyast hirtelen klinikai halalt ujraelesztest es pokolbamenetelt.

[Howard Storm]

I was a 38 year old college professor, teaching art. I had taken my students along with my wife around Europe. We had just done a 3 week tour, and this was the next to the last day. While we were in Paris, at 11:00 am, I had a perforation of my stomach. When this happened it was the most acute pain I had ever experienced in my life, and it just dropped me right down on the ground. So I was twisting, screaming, moaning, kicking and yelling around on the floor, and my wife called the emergency service.

38 eves Foiskolai Professzor. A tanitvanyaimmal es a felesegemmel toltottunk 3 hetet Europaban. Az utolso elotti napon kb 11orakor egy gyomor repedesem lett. Olyan eros volt a fajdalom hogy a foldre dobott. Tekeredtem jobbra balra sikitottam nyoszorogtem mire a felesegem kihivta a mentoket.

A doctor came and got an ambulance because he knew what was wrong. The ambulance took me 8 miles across town to a public hospital. I was then taken into the emergency room and examined by 2 more doctors, who knew exactly what was wrong with me. Then I went into surgery.

Az orvos jott es hivta a mentoket. Elvittek engem kb. 8 mile a varos masik felebe ahol volt elsosegely hely ahol meg ket orvos megvizsgalt. Pontosan tudtak hogy mi a baj es vittek megoperalni.

But because there was no surgeon available, I was just parked there to wait. So I lay there for 8 to 10 hours in that hospital with no medication, no examination, no attention what-so-ever, waiting for a surgeon to come and give me a critical operation.

Mivel nem volt orvos a korhazban aki meg tudott volna operalni csak odaparkoltak engem hogy varjak. Szoval ott vartam 8-10 orat abban a korhazban gyogyszer, vizsgalat es ramtekintes nelkul vartam hogy azoperalo orvos megerkezzen es lebonyolitsa ezt a kritikus mutetet.

Now it 8:30 at night and a nurse came in and told me that they were very sorry that could not get a doctor for me and that they would get one the next day. When she said that, I knew it was over for me, I knew I was dead. The only thing keeping me alive was that I didn’t want to die. I knew I was an atheist, a non-believer, a person who lived for their own gratification.

Kb. 8:30 volt este amikor az apolono odajott es azt mondta hogy rettentoen sajnalja de nem tudnak szerezni orvost a kovetkezo napig. Amikor ezt kimondta tudtam hogy vegem van. Az egyetlen dolog tartott eletben hogy nem akartam meghalni. Tudtam hogy nem hiszek Istenben egy olyan szemely vagyok aki csak sajat maganak elt.

Next to the pain, dieing was the worst thing that could happen to me because it was the end of life, and there was no more, nothing else. But when she told me that no surgeon was available until the next day, the idea of trying to exist for another minute or another hour with this pain was not worth it anymore. I had been hanging on in the hopes that they would get a doctor and do the surgery, open me up and fix the problem. But when they said they could not get a doctor, I said to my wife that is was time for us to say good bye because I’m going to die now.

A fajdalmon kivul a kovetkezo legrosszabb dolog az volt nekem hogy itt van az eletem vege nincs tovabb. Megprobaltam esznel maradni abban a remenyben hogy az orvos jon hamarosan de amikor ezt megtudtam azt mondtam a felesegemnek hogy it az ideje hogy elbucsuzzunk egymastol mert en most meg fogok halni.

So she got up and put her arms around me, she told me how much she loved me and I told her how much I loved her, it was really sad. We made our good byes. We said those things you say after you’ve been together for 20 years.

Ekkor felallt atkarolt es mondta hogy mennyire szeret es en is mondtam hogy mennyire szeretem. Nagyon szomoru volt. Elkoszontunk. Elmondtuk ezeket egymasnak hiszen 20 eve eggyutt voltunk.

She finally sat down because she knew it was over, and I knew. It was so hard looking at her crying like that, so I closed my eyes and just let go. I went unconscious. I was probably unconscious for only a short while, a few minutes probably.

Ezekutan a felesegem leult es tudta hogy vegem van. Nagyon nehez volt latni ot igy szoval becsuktam a szemem es elengedtem magam. Elveszitettem az eszmeletem. Eszmeletlen voltam egy darabig valoszinu egy par percig.

Then I was conscious again. I opened my eyes and looked and I was standing up next to my bed. I knew exactly where I was, and what the situation was, there was no confusion in my mind. I felt alive, more real than I’ve ever felt in my life. People asked me, “were you a ghost?” I was just the opposite, I was very alive.

Ujra magamhoz tertem. Kinyitottam a szemem es azt lattam hogyaz agyam mellett allok. Pontosan tudtam hogy hol vagyok milyen helyzetben vagyok semmi felreertes nem volt bennem. Jobban ereztem magam mint valaha. Emberek kerdeztek hogy " Egy szellem voltal " Nem eppen az ellenkezoj. Igazi elet volt bennem.

As I am looking around the room, I notice that there is something underneath the sheet on the bed, a body. So I bent over the bed to look at the face and it looked like me. But that wasn’t possible, I’m alive, I’m great, I’m more than alive. So I tried to talk to my wife, but she couldn’t hear me or see me. I thought that she was just ignoring me. So I got very angry at her, for ignoring me.

Ahogy korulneztem a szobaban egyszer csak lattam hogy valami van a lepedo alatt. Egy test. Szoval elorehajoltam beleneztem az arcaba es ugy nezett ki mint en. De ez lehetetlen. En itt vagyok tokeletesen erzem magam. Szoval megprobaltam odaszolni a felesegemnek de o nem hallott nem latott engem. Arra gondoltam hogy csak nem akar ram figyelni. Szoval nagyon merges lettem ra hogy nem figyel ram.

So I’m screaming and yelling at her, “Why is there this body in bed that looks like me? How did it get there?” I had a sneaking suspicion that the body was me, but that was too scary to think about. So I’m getting really agitated and upset, because this is all too weird. This can’t be happening, it’s impossible; I got a hospital gown on, and everything is very real. I hear people calling for me outside the room, speaking in soft gentle voices. “Howard, you need to come with us now. Come quickly, come out here.” So I went to the doorway of the room. There are people outside in the hallway. The hallway is dank, it’s grey, not light or dark, it’s just grey. All these men and women dressed in grey, in what might be considered hospital uniforms. I asked them if they were from the doctors to take me to the operation room. I told them all about my situation and how I have been waiting. They keep saying, “We know, we know, we understand. Howard come quickly, come with us, we’ve been waiting for you.”

Orditok ra kiabalok ra " Miert van ez a test az agyban es ugy nez ki mint en? Hogy kerult oda? Kezdtem gyanitani hogy az en vagyok de ez a gondolat olyan ilyeszto volt hogy nem is akartam ra gondolni. Szoval kezdek igazan ideges lenni hiszen ez az egesz olyan lehetetlen. Erre hallok embereket kivulrol beszelgetni igen lagy gyonge hangon."Howard velunk kell hogy gyere mostmar. Gyere gyorsan gyere kifele" Szoval odamegyek az ajtohoz. Odakinnt emberek vannak a folyoson. A folyoso sotet, szurke nincs feny. Ezek az emberek szurkebe voltak oltozve ami a korhazi egyenruha lehet. Elmondtam nekik a szituaciomat es hogy varok. De ok csak egyre azt hajtogatjak hogy tudjuk tudjuk de most veluk kell hogy menjek mert varnak ram.

I left the room which was really clear and bright, and I went into the hallway which was dank and hazy. I followed these people; we had a very long journey. There is no time, and when I make a reference to time, it’s just an illusion because there was no time in this place. But this place, if I was to recreate it, I would have to walk from Nashville to Louisville (175 miles, 281 km) to recreate the walk with these people.

Kimentem a szobabol ahol volt rendes feny erre a folyosora ahol minden sotet es szurke volt. Kovettem ezek es egy igen hosszu utat tettunk meg.et az embereket. Az idonek szinte nem volt mulasa mintha csak egy illuzio lett volna. De hogyha kb.meg kene allapitanom ugy erzodott mintha gyalogoltam volna Nashville to Louisville (kb 281km) annyit gyalogoltam ezekkel az emberekkel.

As we walked they stayed around me, kept moving me on, and it kept getting darker and darker. They were becoming more and more openly hostile to me. At first they were syrupy sweet to get me to go with them. Then when I was going with them they said things like, “hurry up, keep moving, shut-up, stop asking questions” It got more ugly.

Ahogy gyalogoltam korbevettek es noszogattak es egyre sotetebb es sotetebb lett. Kezdtek egyre es egyre nyiltabban durvabb lenni velem. Az elejen nagyon kedvesek voltak hogy veluk menjek de amikor mentem veluk ilyeneket mondtak hogy "siess, mozogj mar nekerdezoskodj" Egyre csunyabb lett a helyzet.

So we get into complete darkness and I’m absolutely terrified. These people are very hostile and I don’t know where I am. I said, “I’m not going with you any further.” They said, “You’re almost there.” We started to fight and I was trying to get away from them. They were pushing and pulling at me. There were now a lot of them. Originally it had been a handful, now with the darkness it could have been 100s or 1000s, I didn’t know.

Szoval tokeletes sotetsegbe ertunk en teljesen halalra vagyok remulve ezek az emberek durvabbak es durvabbak es nem tudom hogy hol vagyok. Azt mondtak hogy mar "majdnem ott vagyunk" Elkezdtunk verekedni mert el akartam szabadulni toluk. Lokdostek, nyomkodtak. Sokan voltak. Eloszor meg csak egy paran voltak de itt ebben a sotetben talan szazan vagy ezren is lehetnek. Fogalmam sem volt.

They were playing with me. They could have destroyed me if they wanted to, but they didn’t want to. They wanted to inflict pain on me, because they derived satisfaction out of the pain that I experienced. It’s really hard for me to talk about, and I won’t tell you much about it; it gets too ugly. Initially they were tearing with their fingernails, scratching, gouging, ripping, and biting. I was trying to defend myself, trying to fight them off and get away from them but it was like being in a bee hive, there were hundreds all over me.

Jatszadoztak velem, nagyon konnyen el tudtak volna pusztitani de nem akartak. Csak fajdalmat akartak nekem okozni mert abban leltek oromuket hogy en szenvedek. Nagyon nehez nekem errol beszelnem szoval nem is fogok sokat mondani rola. Olyan borzaszto. Eloszor csak teptek, karmoltak a kormeikkel, nyomkodtak az ujjaikat belem, haraptak. Probaltam vedeni magam de olyan volt mintha egy mehkas lett volnarajtam.

Soon I was lying on the ground; all ripped up with pain everywhere, inside and outside. Even harder to bear the physical pain was the emotional pain, with utter degradation. I never once felt that it was unjust or wrong.

Hamarosan a foldon fekudtem megtepve kivul belul. A fizikai fajdalomnal a lelki fajdalom meg nagyobb volt. Soha az egesz eletemben nem ereztem magam igy.

I heard my voice, not someone’s voice or the voice of God, it was my voice, but I didn’t speak it. Maybe it was my conscious, I don’t know, but I distinctly heard it say, “Pray to God!” So I thought to myself, “I don’t believe in God.” I was thinking, “even if I could pray, I don’t know how to pray anymore.”

Hallottam a sajat hangomat es meg se szolaltam. Talan a tudatalattim nem tudom de hallottam "Imadkozz a Joistenhez" Szoval arra gondoltam hogy meg ha tudtam is hogy hogy kell imadkozni mar elfelejtettem.

At that time, I haven’t prayed for about 23 years. When I was a child, we said prayers in Sunday school and Church. I was trying to remember them. To me, praying was just reciting something that I learned.

Ekkor mar nem imadkoztam tobb mint 23 eve. Amikor gyermek voltam imadkoztunk a vasarnapi iskolaban es a Templomban de nekem az ima azt jelentette amit en bemagoltam.

“The Lord is my Shepherd, give us this day our daily bread, my country tis’ of thee. Wait, that’s not a prayer. Yea thou I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, for score and seven years ago our forefathers…” I’m getting all mixed up, I can’t remember how to pray.

Az ur a Juhasz, add meg nekunk a mindennapi betevonket...stb, mindent osszekeverek es nem emlekszem hogy hogyan kell imadkozni.

Every time I would mention God to these people that hurt me, it was like throwing boiling water on them. They would shriek, scream and yell. They would use the worst profanity I had ever heard in this world. They could not bear to be around me talking about God. It was so painful for them to hear about God that they kept backing away. So I had a sense that I could push them away by talking about God. So I am trying to remember prayers, but I was getting confused and mixed up.

Minden alkalommal amikor megemlitettem a Joistent ezek az emberek akik nekem mindezt a fajdalmat okoztak mintha forro vizet ontottem volna rajuk, sikoltoztak karomkodtak csunyan amilyet meg soha sem hallottam. Nem tudtak elviselni hogy emlitem a szot Joisten szoval kezdtek egyre jobban hatralni. Eszreveve ezt rajottem hogy el tudom oket tartani magamtol ameddig csak imadkozom. Soval megprobalok emlekezni imakra de mindig ossze kevertem oket.

Eventually I realize that they are gone and I’m alone. I was alone there for an eternity, what I mean was that I had no sense of time. But I thought about my life, I though about what I had done, and what I hadn’t done. I thought about this situation I was in. The conclusion that I came to was this, my entire adult live was selfish, and my only god was myself. I realized that there was something terribly wrong with my life, and that the people that attacked me were the same kind of people that I was. They were not monsters, nor demons; they were people who had missed IT. The point of being alive in this world, they had missed it, they had lived lives of selfishness and cruelty. And now I was in a world where there was nothing else; nothing but selfishness and cruelty. They were doomed to inflict that upon each other and themselves forever, without end. And now I was a part of it.

Vegul is eszre vettem hogy magamra maradtam. Egyedul voltam egy orokkevalosagig amit ugy ertek hogynem erztem az idot. De vegigondoltam az eletemet mit es mit nem csinaltam. Arra a kovetkeztetesre jutottam hogy az egesz felnott eletemben onzo voltam es az egyetlen Isten akit kovettem az sajat magam voltam. Rajottem hogy valamit rettenetesen elrontottam es azok az emberek aki engem tamadtak ugyan olyan emberek voltak mint en magam. Nem ordogok vagy kisertetek hanem ugyanolyan emberek mint en magam vagyok. A lenyege ennek az eletnek amit ezek az emberek is mint en elmulasztottak onzoseg es kegyetlensegbol. Es most itt ezen a helyen mar nincs semmi mas csak ez onzoseg es kegyetlenseg. Erre vannak itelve egy orokkevalosagig es mostmar en is resze vagyok.

Though I didn’t want to be there, it seemed like the right place for me to be. I felt that this is what I deserver, because this is how I lived. You can’t imaging how emotionally painful that was. I’m lying there for time without end, thinking about my fate.

Megha nem is akartam ott lenni ugy tunt hogy ez a hely amit megerdemlek. Kimondhatatlan volt erezni ezt es ot fekudtem a foldon egy orokkevalosagig.

In the back of my mind comes up an image of myself as a child, sitting in a Sunday school class, singing Jesus Loves Me. “Jesus loves me, la la la, Jesus loves me, la la la.” I could hear myself as a child singing it. More important than anything else was that I could feel it in my heart.

Hatul valahol agondolataimban emlekeztem arra az idore amikor gyermek voltam ultem a vasarnapi iskolaban enekeltem Jezus szeret engem la,la,la, es hallottam magamat enekelni. Legfokeppen ereztem a szivemben.

There was a time in my life when I was young and innocent and I believed in something good, I believed in someone other that myself. I believed in someone who was all good, all powerful, who really really cared about me, and I wanted that back. That which I had lost, I had thrown away, I betrayed, I wanted that back. I didn’t know Jesus, but I wanted to know Jesus. I didn’t know His love, but I wanted to know His love. I didn’t know if He was real, but I wanted Him to be real. There was a time in my life where I did believe in something, and I wanted to trust that it was true.

Volt egy ido az eletemben amikor hittem valami joban hittem valaki maban mint magam. Amikor hittem hogyvan valaki aki igazan jo es eros es ezt akartam vissza. Akartam ezt vissza amit en elloktem magamtol nem ismertem de akartam ismerni Jezust. Nem ismertem a szeretetet de akatam ismerni. Nem tudtam hogy igazi -e de akartam hogy az legyen. Volt egy ido az eletemben amikor hittem valamiben es akartam hinni hogy igaz.

So I call up into the darkness, “Jesus, please save me!” and He came. First there was a tiny little spec of light in the darkness, vary rapidly it got brighter. The light became so bring that in the physical world it would have consumed me. It would have fried me to a crisp. But it was not hot or dangerous there. He was in this light and he reached down and gently started to pick me up.

Szoval kiszoltam a sotetsegbe Jezus kerlek ments meg engem. Eloszor csak egy ici pici feny szurodott be de hamarosan fenyesebb es fenyesebb lett. Teljesen elarasztott a feny de nem volt sem forro sem veszelyes. Benne volt a fenyben es O finoman el kezdett felemelni.

In His light I could see that I was all gory, filthy and had wounds all over. I looked like road kill. He was gently putting His hands underneath me and tenderly picking me up. As He was touching me, all the wounds, pain and dirt just goes away. It just evaporated away, and I was whole and healed. And inside, just filled with His love. I wish I could explain it. It’s frustrating not being able to tell people about it because it was the best thing that ever happened to me in my life, it was everything. It was the All of life to know that love, and I just can't reveal that to you.

A fenyessegeben lattam hogy O milyen csodalatos es lattam a salyat sebeimet hogy milyen koszos voltam mintha el lettem volna gazolva. Finoman alam tette a kezet felemelt. Ahogy hozzam ert minden sebem minden fadalmam minden elmult. Belulrol is meggyogyitott. Ugy szeretnem ha ki tudnam igazan fejezni magam, hiszen ez volt a legcsodalatosabb ami velem valaha is tortent. Ez mindenamit valaki is akarhat csak en nem tudom kifejezni.

So He’s holding me, embracing me, rubbing my back, like a father would his son, like a mother would her daughter, just gently rubbing my back. I am balling like a baby out of happiness; from being lost and now found, being dead and now brought back to life. He’s carrying me out of there, and we just flew out.

Atkarolva tartott simogatott mint egy apa a fiat, mint egy anya a lanyat. Zokogtam olyan boldog voltam hiszen el voltam veszve es ime o megtalalt halott voltam es elek. Folvett es csak repultunk felfele.

We were moving towards a world of light, and I began to have thoughts of tremendous shame. I’ve been so bad, I thought of myself as dirt, garbage and filth. I thought to myself, “He’s made a mistake, I don’t belong here, He doesn’t want me.” How could He care about me, why me, I’m bad.

Kozeledtunk a feny fele es en rettentoen ereztem magam.Arra gondoltam "o eltevesztette...en nem tartozom ide..en rossz vagyok...

**Then we stopped, we weren’t in hell, we weren’t in Heaven, we were in-between. He said, “We don’t make mistakes, you belong here.” We began to converse and He was telling me things.**

Valahogy megalltunk ...nem voltunk a pokolban, sem a mennyekben...es azt mondta nekem " Mi nem hibazunk" te ide tartozol." El kezdtunk beszelgetni es el kezdett mondani nekem dolgokat.

He brought over some angels who went over my life from beginning to end. They showed me what I had done right and what I had done wrong. And it was really simple. When I had been a loving kind person, considerate of other people, it had made the angels happy, it had made Jesus happy, and they let me know that it made God happy. When I had been selfish and manipulative it made the angels unhappy, it made Jesus unhappy, and they let me know it made God unhappy. What they were trying to convey to me, in a nutshell, was that my whole purpose of my existence was to love God and love my neighbor as myself. That is why I had been created, that is what I was in this world to do and to learn. But I failed.

Odahivott angyalokat akik vegigpergettek az eletemet. Megmutattak nekem hogy amikor jo voltam emberekhez akkor az boldogga tette az angyalokat Jezust es a Joistent. Amikor onzo voltam es kihasznaltam embereket az szomoruva tette az angyalokat Jezust es a Joistent. Azt probaltak nekem elmondani roviden hogy az oka annak hogy en letezem azert van hogy szeressem a Joistent Jezust es hogy szeretnem kell masokat ahogy magamat. Ezert vagyok itt. Es en ezt elmulasztottam.

They told me that I needed to come back to this world, and I got really upset because I wanted to go to Heaven. What they told me about Heaven was that it was the most fun, most interesting, and most wonderful place. Everyone would want to go to Heaven and I wanted to get there. They said that I was NOT ready, that I wasn’t fit, it wasn’t my time to go to Heaven. It was my time to come back to this world and try and live the way that God wanted me to live, the way He created me to live.

Azt mondtak hogy vissza kell hogy jojjek a foldre. Ekkor ideges lettem mert a mennyekbe akartam menni. Mert tudtam hogy az a hely amire mindenki vagyik. Azt mondtak hogy nem vagyok keszen ra es hogy vissza kell hogy jojjek a foldre es ugy kell hogy eljek ahogy az Isten teremtett.

I told Jesus and the angels that I couldn’t live in this world without them. I said that my heart would break if they sent me back to this world. They’d be there and I would be here. They said to me, “You don’t get it? What is the matter? We are showing you all this. We’ve always been there. We’ve been with you all this time. And you’ve never been alone down there.”

Mondtam Jezusnak es az angyaloknak hogy mostmar en nem tudok a foldon nelkuluk elni. A szivem megszakad ha nelkuluk kell elnem. Es azt mondtak" Hogy hogy nem erted? Mindezt azert mutatjuk meg neked mert latnod kell. Mi mindig ott voltunk veled soha nem voltal egyedul.

I said, “You’ve got to let me know that you are around once in a while.” So they said if I prayed and confess my sins to God, if I give what I had to God, meaning to give my worries, cares, hopes, and my dreams, just give it all up to God, then there would be times when I would know in my heart that they are there. Not necessarily seeing them, but I would feel the love like I felt then. I told them that if they will assure me that there are times when I can know that love, then I could live in this world. They said they would do that, then they send me back.

Erre azt montam nekik hogy tudnom kell hogy velem vagytok ha visszamegyek. Erre azt mondtak hogyha imadkozom ha /beszelek/ Istenhez bevallom a bunomet es megvaltoztatom odaadom a gondjaimat Istennek akkor tudni fogom hogy velem vannak.

After the experience, the nurse who’d said that they couldn’t find a doctor, she ran back to the room and said that a doctor has arrived. at the hospital which is like this is pretty miraculous stuff because this is like around 9 or 9:30 at the night. She said “the doctor has arrived at the hospital and we are going to do surgery on you right away.” And some … people came in and they through my wife out of the room. It is very disturbing because I was trying to tell them I wanted to tell my wife what had happened to me. So when I pass my wife on the hall on the path to the surgery, I said everything is going to be great. And she just started thalling(?) …, that is like a dying man. Strange thing about this experience is the memory hasn’t dull at all. It is real tense and I don’t know it stays tense. I believe one of the reasons that God gives me this experience is that I would have the opportunity to share it with someone. I don’t know who and I never know who. But I would have the opportunity to share with somebody so it could be a help to them.

Ezek utan az apolono aki azt mondta hogy nem tudott talalni orvost futott be a szobaba es azt mondta. Az orvos megerkezett ami egy csoda volt mert 9 vagy 9:30 volt este. Mondta hogy visznek rogton mutetre. Jottek is es kidobtak a felesegem a szobabol. Csalodott voltam mert igazan el akartam neki mondani hogy mi tortent velem. Szoval amikor elhaladtunk a felesegem mellett ahogy mentunk a mutetre mondtam neki hogy minden jo lesz. Es o csak azt hitte hogy en csak vigasztalni akarom mint egy haldoklo ember. Ami furcsa ebben az egeszben hogy ez az emlek nem halvanyodik el egyaltalan. Es tudom hogy az egyetlen oka annak hogy itt vagyok az az hogy, meg tudjam osztani valakivel, soha nem tudom hogy kivel hogy tudjak segiteni masoknak

=== Street Interviews ===Utcai Interju

(John 14:6) (Janos 14:6)
I am the Way the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father but by Me. "Én vagyok az út, az igazság és az élet; senki sem mehet az Atyához, csakis énáltalam.

[Announcer]Bemondo
A random survey reveals that many people do not believe in a true Heaven and Hell. Many of those who do believe these places exists, have different ideas on how a person gets to one place or the other.

Egy talalomra tett felmeres kimutatja hogy mennyi ember nem hisz igazabol a menyorszagban vagy a pokolban. Sokan akik hiszik hogy ezek a helyek leteznek tobbfele velemenyt alkotnak arrol hogy egy szemely hogyan jut el az egyik vagy a masik helyre.

[Random Person on Street #1 (Man)]1.Ferfi

I don’t believe there is a Hell. I do believe there is a Heaven. Somehow there has to be more to this existence than just a short period of time on the Earth, there’s got to be something following it.

En nem hiszem hogy letezik a pokol. Azt elhiszem hogy letezik a menyorszag. Valahogy ugy erzem hogy valahogy kell hogy legyen valami ez utan az elet utan ami csak olyan rovid ido a foldon. Valaminek kell hogy legyen ez utan.

Interview with a random person on the street

[Random Person on Street #2 (Man)]2. Ferfi
I believe that everyone will pay for what they do in life. I don’t necessarily believe in what the Bible says about Hell being a fiery inferno, I believe Hell is just your worst fears and everything that can be evil in your own perception, you pay for - for eternity. And Heaven is just where you live the rest of your life in peace as long as you love God and live for God and live by His Word.

En azt hiszem hogy mindenki fog fizetni azert amit itt csinaltak a foldon. Nem igazan hiszem hogy lenne tuzes pokol mint ahogy a Biblia irja, en azt gondolom hogy a pokol nem mas mint a legrosszabb felelmeink a sajat tudatunkban orokkevalosagig. A menyorszag szerintem az ahol
mi elni fogunk bekeben mindaddig amig mi szeretjuk az Istent neki elunk es kovetjuk a szavat.

[Random Person on Street #3 (Woman)]3.No
I do believe there is a Heaven, definitely there is a Heaven. I’m not sure so much about the Hell. How do you explain Hell. However, Heaven Yes.

En hiszem hogy van menyorszag igen mindenfelekeppen.Nem vagyok biztos a pokolban.Nem tudom hogy mi lehet a pokol. De menyorszag igen.

[Random Person on Street #4 (Man)]4.Ferfi
I don’t think its necessary that you attend church to go to Heaven, or that you believe in the bible, but just live a good life. Hell is reserved for just a few really bad people, maybe somebody who might commit murder intentionally. Murder is probably the only thing that you would wind up in Hell for.

En nem hiszem hogy valakinek templomba kene jarnia hogy a menyorszagba keruljon, vagy hogy hinni kene a bibliaban, szerintem eleg ha egy jo eletet elunk. A pokol csak azoknak van talan akik szandekosan megolnek valakit.

[Random Person on Street #5 (Woman)]5.No
I’m not really sure what would lead you to Hell, or why you would go to Heaven. I wouldn’t know.

En nem vagyok biztos benne hogy mitol jutna valaki a pokolba vagy a mennyekbe.

[Random Person on Street #6 (Man)]6. Ferfi
I think there is not really a Heaven or Hell, just an afterlife. I don't know exactly what it is. I not sure what there is, but I think there is some sort of middle, or limbo, or purgatory where everybody goes. Its neither really comfortable or really traumatic.

En nem hiszem hogy lenne menyorszag vagy pokol csak egy elet ez utan.Nem tudom pontosan. En csak azt hiszem hogy van egy kozeput purgatorium ahova mindenki megy.

[Random Person on Street #7 (Woman)] 7.No

I believe that everyone in their own mind thinks of a Heaven and a Hell. Heaven is what makes them happiest, what they are looking forward to in the future, and what they believe by “their own belief”, whether it be God or some other deity or entity, that Heaven does exist. And that is what they work for in life. My daughter is a proclaimed atheist, but somewhere in the back of her mind, she knows there is something that she wants out of the final life time. And to me that is all that is required, a deity is not required.

En azt gondolom hogy mindenki a sajat magaban gondolja a menyorszagot vagy a poklot. Menyorszag ami a legboldogabba tesz valakit amit keresnek a jovoben amit hisznek. Ha ez Isten van akarmi mas nekik az a menyorszag. Az en lanyom egyaltalan nem hisz Istenben szoval az o gondolataban van valami elkepzeles hogy mit akar ezutan az elet utan. Nekem egy Istenseg nem

[End of Interviews] Vege az Interjuknak

[Random Person on Street #8 (Woman)] 8 No

I believe in my own kind of belief which is more of a metaphysical belief. I believe however you feel on Earth, how you view Heaven, what it is, it’s your own conception. So it becomes that way when you die. So if you believe that there is a god source in you, and that you are a good person, and you’re a happy person, that is what happens to you after you die. But I don’t believe that you’re penalized, and you go to some place full of fire, because you didn't live your life the way organized religion thinks you should.

Az en gondolkozasmodom hogy ugy mondjam egy metefizikus gondolkodas. En ugy gondolom hogy ahogy erzed magad a foldon ugy latod a tulvilagot. A te sajat elkepzelesed. Es igy lesz amikor meghalsz. Ha ugy gondolod hogy van Isten es jo ember vagy boldog ember vagy akkor az fog tortenni veled amikor meghalsz. De en nem hiszem hogy meg lennenk buntetve a pokolllal csak azert mert nem eljuk ugy az eletunket ahogy a szervezett vallas elvarja.

[Dr. Rawlings]
Many people are trying to dilute the message of hell and heaven saying that neither of these places exists. Why not eat, drink and be merry? If there is no accountability, then there is no sin. And if there is no sin, Christ died in vain. And if Christ died in vain, what do we need God for? This is the new philosophy of New Age, that there is no hell. It is a hope of most people that there is no hell.

Sok ember megprobalja felhigitani az uzenetet a pokolnak es a menyorszagnak azt mondvan hogy nem leteznek. Miert ne egyunk igyunk hazasodjunk.? Hogyha nincs felelossegrevonas akkor nincs bun. Ha nincs bun akkor Jezus meghalt semmiert. Es ha Jezus meghalt semmiert akkor miert van szuksegunk az Istenre. Ez az uj filozofiaja a mai generacionak.

Volunteers are going into hospitals, to visit our loved ones, with the New Age message. It is called the religion of the ending years, the religion of near death experiences. “Look, I went to heaven”, they tell the patient that is dying, “I saw the light and I came back. All is well. There is no accountability, there is no hell. Heaven’s gates are open wide for everyone who dies. Look at me. I am an atheist and I am here. You don’t have to worry. Death is nothing to be feared. I am going to stay with you. Your family is too afraid to stay with you while you are dying, but I'm not. Let me hold your hand. Let me tell you about this glorious thing that are coming to get you, this beautiful light at the end of the tunnel where there is no worry, no loss, only gain. You are acceptable as you are. There is no heaven, there is no hell. It is eternity for all." This is the new age philosophy called the Omega Faith, where everybody goes to heaven. There is a group of these people coming into our hospitals, consulting the dying, instead of our church groups consulting the dying.

Onkentes vallalkozok mennek korhazainkba latogatni a betegeinket evvel az uzenettel." En voltam a mennyekben"Lattam a vilagossagot es vissza is jottem" Minden rendben van. Nem tortent semmi. Amennyek tarva nyitva vannak mindenkinek aki meghal. Higyjel nekem en nem hiszk istenben es itt vagyok. En itt vagyok veled es fogom a kezedet. Ne felj. A csaladod talan fel de en nem felek es itt leszek veled. Hagy mondjam el neked hogy az attol a csodalatos fenyessegtol nem kell felned. Ne felj. Mindannyian odamegy csak ugy ahogy vagyunk. Ezek azok az emberek akik konzultalnak a betegeinkkel a halalos agyukon.

Ministry to the dying is the most neglected ministry of all. Nobody wants it. Everybody is afraid of a dying patient. And the dying patient wants to know what dying is all about. Does it hurt? Is there a life after death? Is there a Heaven and a Hell? How can I make sure that I am going to get to heaven? And you can tell them it is a free gift. You can tell them how to get it. But if we don’t defend ourselves against the Omega faith, who are infiltrating the hospitals now with a faith that is deadly, then we are going to lose our own Christianity. The patient will die naked without any faith at all.

A ministralasa a haldoklóknak a leginkább elhanyagolt ministralas. Senki nem akarja. Mindenki fél a haldokló betegektol. Viszont a haldokló beteg akarja tudni, ami haldoklónak szól. Fáj? Van-e élet a halál után? Van-e menny és pokol? Hogyan lehetek biztos abban, hogy fogok eljutni mennyországba? És ki tudja megmondani nekik, hogy ez egy ingyenes ajándék. Es ki tudja megmondani nekik, hogyan lehet azt megkapni. De ha mi nem védeni magunkat az Omega hit ellen, ami beszivárodik a kórházainkba akkor meghalunk mert ez egy olyan hit, amely halálos, es el fogjuk veszíteni a saját kereszténységunket. A beteg meg fog halni meztelenül az igazi hit nélkül.

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=== Dr. Donald Whitaker ===

Our next case is of Dr. Whitaker who is still in practice, but was atheist at the time of the incident. He had nothing to do with God, but there was a situation that changed his life. We’d like you to experience it with him.

A kovetkezo eset Dr. Whitaker aki meg most is praktizal, de ebben az idoben o nem hitt a vallasban. Nem akart es nem gondolt Istenre addig amig egy szituacio megvaltoztatta az eletet.

[Dr. Donald Whitaker]

It was February of 1975, at that time I was an alcoholic out of control. I was also using recreational drugs. But primarily, alcohol was my drug of choice. I was totally out of control. I had a lot of friends in the entertainment business; Ringo Star and a bunch of other people.

1975 Februar volt. Ebben az idoben alkoholista voltam es csak magamnak eltem. Kabitoszereztem is de leginkabb az alkohol volt amihez hozza voltam kotve. Sok baratom volt az szorako iparban Ringo Star es sokan masok.

They were having a TV special on the west coast. Hoight (a friend) had called me and asked me if I would like to go. I told him that I would love to, because I knew there was going to be a lot of booze, and partying. While they were doing their special, I was doing my thing.

Meghivtak egy bemutatora. Hoight ( a baratom) kerdezte hogy akarnek -e jonni. Mondtam neki hogy persze hogy szeretnek, mert tudtam hogy lesz sok pia meg miegyebek. Amig ok csinaltak a bemutatot en elfoglaltam magam.

After about three or four days out there, I became ill. I had severe pain in my abdomen. I flew into Oklahoma city, called a senator friend of mine, and asked him to send a car for me because I was sick. They sent a car and took me home. And I checked into Whatley hospital in Texarkana, Texax in February of 1975. I checked in with electrolytes, which means that the chemicals in my body were so far out of balance that they had to give me IVs to build me up.

Korulbelul 3 vagy 4 nap mulva beteg lettem. Nagyon eros fajdalmaim voltak. Oklahomaba repultem ahol felhivtam egy szenator baratomat es kertem hogy kuldjon egy autot mert beteg vagyok. Kuldtek az autot es mentunk haza. Bejelentkeztem a Whatley korhazba Texarkana Texas-ban 1975 Februarjaban.Megvizsgaltak es rajottek hogy a kemiai egyensuly a testemben teljesen fel van borulva szoval ezzel kellett elsosorban kezdeniuk.

At that time of my life, I was atheist. I was hard core atheist and was living for myself.   Atheists are self centered, they live for themselves. This is where I found myself in 1975 in my hospital.

Ebben az idoben nem foglalkoztam az Istennel valo dolgokkal. Szerettem a sajat eletemet elni. Ebben az allapotban talaltam magam a korhazban.

After 3 days they operated me. Later, I found myself in the intensive care on a respirator, which means it was breathing for me. I couldn’t speak. I’ve been there in a comma. I heard these people talking about how sick I was and how I was going to die and how I wouldn’t get out of the hospital. At that time my hair was very long because I just wore my hair long. And I heard one guy say, “My, his hair is long.” And another guy said, “Not nearly as long as it is going be before he gets out of here.” And the third voice said, “He's not going to get out of here. He's going to die.”

3 nap utan megoperaltak. Kesobb az intenziv osztalyon talaltam magam a lelegezteton. Nem voltam kepes beszelni. Komaban voltam. Csak hallottam ezeket az orvosokat beszelni felettem arrol hogy en milyen beteg vagyok hogy en meg fogok halni meg hogy en mar ezt a korhazat nem fogom elhagyni. Ebben az idoben hosszu hajam volt es az egyik doki mondta "milyen hosszu a haja" erre a masik meg azt mondta " de meg milyen hosszu lesz mire innet kimegy" erre a harmadik azt mondta " innet o mar nem megy ki"

And after 3 days, I could breath on my own. I remember my doctor, my surgeon, Dr. Donald Dunkon said to me, “Don, if you have anything to get right, if you have anything to get signed, you get it done because we are not sure how long you have.”

Harom nap utan mar lelegeztem sajat magam. Emlekszem az orvosom Dr. Donald Dunkon azt mondta, " Don , hogyha valamit el kell intezned, vagy ala kell irnod valamit most csinald meg mert nem vagyunk biztosak benne hogy mennyi idod van meg hatra."

I knew I had a condition which is that was called Acute hemorrhagic narcotic pancreatitis. You don’t live with this disease. You could live with pancreatitis. You could even live with Acute pancreatitis, but you do not live with Acute hemorrhagic narcotic pancreatitis. Dunkon had told my two sons that I would be dead before morning. They didn’t expect me to survive.

Tudtam hogy a betegsegem amit ugy hivnak hogy Acute hemorrhagic narcotic pancreatitis halalos. Evvel a betegseggel nem lehet elni. Lehet elni pancreatitis-sal. Meg Acute pancreatitis-sal is lehet elni, de nem lehet elni Acute hemorrhagic narcotic pancreatitis-sal. Dunkon azt mondta a ket fiamnak hogy nem erem meg a reggelt. Nem szamitottak ra hogy odaig elni fogok.

I was laying there, a professed atheist. I didn’t believe in God. I believed in the power of the universe because I’ve seen it. As a physician, I’ve dealt with life and death. I believed in something, but don’t talk me about God. And surely don’t talk to me about resurrection, virgin birth or these type of things because I am in research and science. The Majority of PHDs in research and science don’t believe in God. They do not believe a supreme being. They are beginning to believe there is an order in the universe because the further along we go, we see the order.

Csak fekudtem ott es tudtam hogy nem hiszek az Istenben. Tudtam magamban hogy hiszek a tudomanyban hiszen mint egy orvos lattam a tudomany erejet nap mint nap. En tudom hogy hittem valamiben, de ne gyere nekem evvel az Isten szoveggel. Legfokeppen ne is kezd el a beszelgetest a feltamadasrol, a Szuz Mariarol aki szulte Jezust es ezekrol a dolgokrol mert en egy orvos es kutato vagyok. Mi orvosok nem hiszunk Istenben. Manapsag azonban mar kezdik hinni hogy valami furcsa rendezettseg van a foldon mert egyre tobb es tobb bizonyitek mutatja.

It is very easy to be an atheist when you are successful. You have worked your way from Oklahoma welfare to be one of the most powerful men in your part of the country – one of the most powerful men in the state of Oklahoma, politically. It is very easy to be an atheist when you have done all of that. A man could sit back and say "I don’t need God. What is God?"

Nagyon konnyu nem hinni az Istenben akkor amikor sikeres vagy. Amikor feldolgoztad magad a segelyrol arra a szintre amikor te vagy az egyik legnevesebb ember az orszagnak ebben a reszeben, ugyanugy mint politikailag. Amikor mindezt kidolgoztad magadnak akkor az ember csak hatradol es azt mondja." En nekem nem kell Isten.KIi az az Isten"

But it is very difficult to be an atheist when you are lying on the death bed, because you began thinking "what if these people are right?" There had been one man named Ron Short, that stood between me and the gates of hell. One man had witnessed to me about the love of Jesus for 5 years, before I became ill. I would debate him and I liked him, because he did what he said he was going to do. He was the only one that I saw that profess to be Christian and lived what he said he was going to do. I really respected him. I didn’t believe what he said but I respected him.

De nagyon bonyolult nem hinni az Istenben akkor amikor a halalos agyadon fekszel, mert akkor el kezdesz gondolkodni " mi van akkor hogyha ezeknek az embereknek igazuk van?" Egy ember volt Ron Short aki allt kozottem es a pokol kapuja kozott. Mindig beszelt nekem az Iten szereteterol 5 evig mielott beteg lettem. Vitatkoztam vele de kedveltem ot mert mindig azt tette amit megigert. O volt az egyetlen aki ugy viselkedett mint egy Kereszteny es olyan eletet is elt. Respektaltam erte. Nem hittem el amit mondott, de respektaltam ot.

When I was lying on my death bed and knowing that I was going to die, guess who I thought about? I thought, "what if Ron is right? What if there is a Heaven and a Hell." Almost immediately the most pressing thought in my mind is how do I get saved. What is saved? How do I get saved?

Amikor ott fekudtem a halalos agyamon es tudtam hogy meg fogok halni mit gondolsz kire gondoltam? Azt gondoltam," mi van akkor ha Ron-nak igaza van? Mi van akkor hogy ha van egy menyorszag es van egy pokol" Surgosen azon gondolkodtam hogy mit tegyek hogy meg legyek mentve. Egyaltalan mit jelent ez hogy meg legyek mentve.

So I sent people out to get Ron Short. I wanted him to come down because I wanted him to do whatever he had to do. I had no idea how a man hanging on a tree in Israel 2000 years ago could save me. What is that to me? But I knew he had something that I had to have. That night Ron wasn’t home, he was in Alabama. So I had people go and get Ron.

Szoval elkuldtem Ron-ert. Akartam hogy jojjon mert azt akartam hogy tegye meg amit meg kell tennie hogy meg legyek mentve. Na termeszetesen ennekem fogalmam sem volt rola hogy egy ferfi aki 2000 evvel ezelott ot logott egy fan Israel-ban hogy tud engem megmenteni. Mi koze van ennek hozzam. De azt az eggyet tudtam hogy hogy neki van valami je amire nekem szuksegem van. Ezen az esten Ron nem volt otthon. Alabama-ban volt. Szoval elkuldtem erte.

That night was the longest night that I’ve had in my entire life, before or since. As I am laying there in bed, I had begun to fade away into darkness.   It was so, so dark. It was like the darkness just penetrated into your very being. I can tell you that I left my body because I remember coming back into my body. I don’t know where I was out of my body.

Ez az ejszaka volt a leghosszabb ejszaka az egesz eletemben. Ahogy ott fekudtem az agyamban el kezdtem elvesziteni az eszmeletemet es mentem egy rettento sotetsegbe. Azt mondhatom neked oszinten hogy elhagytam a testemet mert arra vilagosan emlekszem amikor visszajottem a testembe. Azt viszont nem tudom hogy hol voltam mikor elhagytam a testemet..

There are people that talk about a light, or floating above, a feeling of warmth or love. I didn’t feel any of that. I felt none of that. I felt untold terror, untold terror. I knew that if I went all the way, if I slipped all the way, I would never get back. In my being of beings I knew that. So I fought all night long.

Nehanyan beszelnek a vilagossagrol, vagy lebegesrol, vagy egy meleg erzeserol vagy szeretetrol. En semmi ilyesmit nem ereztem . En csak egy kimondhatatlan rettegest ereztem, kimondhatatlan rettegest. Tudtam hogy ha elmegyek teljesen vegig ha ez megtortenik mar soha nem jovok vissza. Belulrol ezt tudtam szoval harcoltam ez ellen egesz ejszaka.

They told me later on that I not only pull the mattress cover off the mattress, I put the mattress upon me. I had to stay, I had to wait till Ron got there. Whatever he had to do, I had to wait.

Kesobb mondtak hogy nem csak a lepedot huztam le az agyrol de meg a matracot is magamra huztam. Maradnom kellett. Varnom kellett addig amig Ron odaert.

But again when I would leave my body, I would be going down into deep dark terror. My skin began to get cold. Not the kind of cold you feel when you walk out in the air, no, this was bone chilling cold. And I could feel the coldness began to come up my legs.

De megint amikor elhagytam a testemet kezdtem lecsuszni abba a felelmetes stetsegbe. A borom kezdett meghidegulni. Nem az a fajta hidegseg amikor kimesz a friss levegore, nem ez az a fajta amikor a csontjaid atfagynak es a hidegseg jott felfele a labamon.

Again I would begin to leave my body and would be in the darkness, in that void. I remember one time entering back my body, I felt my body thud, my physical body thud. Believe me, believe me, that was the most horrifying terrifying experience that I had ever encountered.

Megint elkezdtem elhagyni a testemet es a sotetsegben voltam abban a semmiben. Egyszer csak emlekszem ahogy visszajottem a testembe mert ereztem egy igazi koppanast ahogy visszajottem a testembe. Hidd el nekem hogy ez volt az eletemben a legrettentobb erzes amit valaha is tapasztaltam

I fought all night long. The next morning around 9:30 or 10 o’clock, Ron came in. He said, “Dr. Whitaker, what do they say are your chances?” I said, “Ron, they tell me I have none.” He said, “Now is the time.” I said, “You're right.”

Harcoltam ez ellen az egesz ejszaka. A kovetkezo reggelen kb 9:30 vagy 10 ora korul Ron megerkezett. Azt mondta" Dr. Whitaker, mit mondanak mik az eselyei?" Azt mondtam" Ron azt mondjak hogy semmi" Erre o azt mondta, " Most van itt az ideje" Erre azt mondtam, " Igazad van"

Before, I had cursed him, I had spit on him, but now it was the time because I had to have whatever he had. I had a short period of time left on earth and I didn’t have any idea when I might make that trip and go all the way.

Azelott lekaromkodtam ot, kopkodtem ra de most it volt az ido mert tudtam hogy kell nekem ami neki van.

At that time Ron simply led me in a sinner’s pray. I had no idea what a sinner’s prayer was, but I trusted Ron. He led me through the sinner’s prayer and told me that Jesus had died for my sins. He had died for the sins of the world. I didn’t quite understand that. He showed me in the word of God where that was written.

Ekkor Ron csak elmondatta velem a bunosok imajat es azt mondta hogy Jezus meghalt a buneimert. Jezus meghalt a vilag buneiert. En ezt nem igazan ertettem de megmutatta hogy hol van leirva.

You have to understand that I am a man of books. I’ve spent big part of my life, 25 or 26 years of life in books, all types of scientific books. I have degrees in Chemistry, all the way up to medicine doctor to practical medicine.

Meg kell hogy ertsd en a konyvek embere vagyok. Egy nagy reszet az eletemnek 25 vagy 26 evet toltottem mindenfele kutato konyvekben. Kemiai Diplomaim vannak mindenfele doktoratusom.

He told me and I believed him because it said so in this book. It was a new book to me, it was called Bible. I had Ron lead me, and I said the sinner’s prayer. I can tell you one thing, there was a peace that came over me like I have never known.

O amit mondott en elhittem mert abben a konyvben le volt irva. Ez a konyv a Biblia volt. Csak annyit tudok neked mondani hogy en meg eletemben ilye nyugalmat net ereztem amit akkor.

I’ve searched for that peace in the bottles, alcohol, needles, drugs, and women. I’ve searched for it in all type of places. But there was no peace in my life. But once I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior, I was no longer afraid. I still believed I was going to die because I knew the condition I had, and you don’t survive it. I knew that, I am a physician. I knew what I had you did not survive.

En kerestem ezt a nyugalmat az uvegben, kabitoszerben, noben. En kerestem ezt a nyugalmat mindenben de nem volt nyugalom az eletemben. De amikor elfogadtam Jezus Christust a szivembe mint a megmentomet tobbet nem feltem. Tudni tudtam hogy meghalok mert tudtam hogy olyan kondicioban vagyok amit nem lehet tulelni.

Ron showed me in the word of God where it says, “These signs shall follow those that believe. They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover.” (Mark 16:18) I walk around on planet earth this day, taking no insulin, taking no enzymes, eating whatsoever I want, and everyday God produces in my body the correct material for me to function without having to take medication.

  Ron megmutatta nekem a Bibliaban hogy hol van Mark 16:18) "betegre teszik rá a kezüket, és azok meggyógyulnak."

Ramtette a kezet es ma meg mindig it vagyok ezen a foldon anelkul hogy kene inzulint kapnom, barmifele enzimeket, eszem azt amit kivanok es minden nap az Isten megteremti a testemben azt az anyagot amire szuksege van a szervezetemnek gyogyszer nelkul.

When you see blind eyes open, you see the cripples walk, you see the leprosy cleansed, and you see them with your own eyes, then it doesn’t take a rocket science to figure out that Bible is true.

Amikor latod hogy a vakember elnyeri a latasat, amikor latod a rokkant embert menni, amikor latod a leprat elmulni es latod ezeket a sajat szemeddel akkor nem kell hogy egy rocket science-tist legyel hogy kitalald hogy a Biblia Igaz.

=== Dr. George Rodonaia ===

[Dr. Rawlings]
How can the various stages of Hell have different aspects to people? The Bible doesn’t say it is all fire. If you look at different places, it says

Hogy van az hogy a kulonbozo fokozatai a pokolnak kulonbozo dolgokat eredmenyez emberekben. A biblia nem mondja azt hogy csak tuz. Hogyha belenezel a Bibliaba akkor beszel ezekrol mint

“cast out”        "eluldoz"

“separate from God” "elvalasztas az Istentol"

“total darkness” "teljes sotetseg"

“with worms that cannot die” "elve felemesztve kukacok altal"

Most of it is flame. Seeing the angels of light can be deceptive in some cases. For instance, 2 Corinthians 11:14, it tells us that even Satan can change himself into the angel of light and deceive many. Which light did these people see at the end of the tunnel, especially if it was someone that didn’t think they deserve to be in Heaven? Those things do occur.

Legtobbnyire a tuzrol beszel. Latni csak a vilagossagot ez megteveszto esetekben mert Pál második levele a korinthusiakhoz

2 Corinthians 11:14, 14Nem is csoda, mert maga a Sátán is a világosság angyalának adja ki magát."

Valyon melyik fenyt lathattak ezek az emberek, foleg akkor hogyha valaki olyanrol beszelunk aki ugy is gondolja o hogy nem erdemli meg hogy a mennyekbe keruljon. Ezek a dolgok elofordulnak.

Strangely enough the opposite does not occur. Those that saw themselves in Hell knew exactly where they belong. And there was no question why they were put there. In fact, Christ talked about this Himself in Mathew 25. Jesus also said that if Satan cast out Satan, how would his kingdom stand? (Mathew 12:26) Meaning, why would Satan show people that there is a Hell, that would work against his kingdom and his lies. No, impossible. As an angel of light, Satan can deceive many. But this variation that they see in Hell, whether it is total darkness or whether it is fire, both are places where they never want to visit again.

Az erdekesseg kedveert ennek az ellentete nem fordul elo. Azok akik lattak magukat a pokolban pontosan tudtak hogy miert vannak ott. Es nem volt kerdes a szamukra hogy miert kerultek oda. Valojaban Jezus beszelt is errol Mate 25-ban. Jezus azt is mondta 25Ő pedig, ismerve gondolataikat, ezt mondta nekik: "Minden ország, amely meghasonlik önmagával, elpusztul, és egyetlen város vagy ház sem maradhat fenn, amely meghasonlik önmagával.

Mate 12:26 26Ha pedig a Sátán a Sátánt űzi ki, meghasonlott önmagával, és akkor hogyan maradhat fenn az országa?

Ez azt jelenti hogy miert mutatna a Satan meg az embereknek hogy van pokol, ezzel a sajat orszaga es hazugsagai ellene dolgozna. Viszont mint egy fenyesseg angyala sok embert meg tud teveszteni. De barmelyik esetben amit lattak a pokolban vagy a sotetetseg vagy a tuz azok a helyek ahova nem kivankozhatunk vissza.

This brings us to the case of Dr. George Rodonaia, a young Russian fellow, very intelligent. He came with a Ph.D and an M.D, but had trouble with KGB. He couldn’t get out of Russia. In fact when he tried to get out of Russia, he was purposely run down by a KGB agent, who drove on the sidewalk in order to run him over. This is how he died and where his story begins.

A kovetkezo esetunk Dr. George Radonaia , egy fiatal Orsz ferfi aki nagyon intelligens. Tobb doktoratussal rendelkezett de volt egy problemaja a KBG-vel / Orosz biztonsagi szolgalat/ . Nem tudta elhagyni az orszagot, vagy hogy ugy mondjam amikor el akarta hagyni az orszagot direkt elgazoltak a KGB / orosz biztonsagi szolgalat/ utasitasara. Az ember aki elgazolta meg a jardara is felment csak hogy meg tudja semmisiteni. Az o halalaval kezdodik ez az eset.

[Dr. George Rodonaia]
As a psychiatrist and a neuropathologist, for me God never existed. I never believed in God. I never believed in the Bible. I never thought about God, the Bible or divinity. In 1976, I was 20 years old, I was already a doctor working in Georgia, Russia. Mint egy elmeorvos /pszichologus/ agysebesz nekem az Isten sohasem letezett. En soha nem hittem az Istenben.

Soha nem hittem a Bibliaban nem gondoltam az Istenre vagy Istensegre. 1976-ban 20 eves voltam, es mar akkor orvoskent dolgoztam Georgia-ban Oroszorszagban.

I met a lady from Texas. I tried to leave the country many times. But I didn’t have much help. This lady tried to help me and I got in big trouble with the KGB. I worked on “idenotintriphosper”, it is a neuron transmitter in our brain. With the conjunction of "Oxitocin", I discovered several things.

Megismerkedtem egy holggyel Texasbol. Megprobaltam elhagyni az orszagot mar akkor nehany alkalommal de sosem volt segitsegem ehhez. Ez a holgy probalt meg nekem segiteni es igy kerultem nagy bajba A KGB-vel /Orosz biztonsagi szolgalat/- tal. Egy “idenotintriphosper”, agyhullam kozvetiton dolgoztam az agyban amikor felfedeztem nehany dolgot.

I was an important scientist and KGB didn’t want me to go so they decided to kill me. That is how I got into another dimension of my life.

En egy igen fontos kutato voltam es a KGB nem akarta hogy eltunjek szoval ugy dontottek hogy megolnek. Ezen a modon kerultem egy masik dimenziojaba az eletnek.

I was standing on the sidewalk, ready to depart to NY, waiting for cab, when a car on the sidewalk hit me. I flew in the air 10 meters, and then the car ran over me. My friends and relative took me to the hospital. The hospital staff, friends of mine and 2 other professors declared me dead. On Friday night, they put me in the morgue, in the freezer.

A jardan alltam keszen allva hogy induljak New york-ba vartam egy taxira amikor egy auto a jardan elutott. Repultem 10 metert a levegoben es az auto ujra vegigszaladt rajtam. A barataim es a rokonom vittek el a korhazba ahol az orvos aki a baratom volt es meg ket masik professzor halottnak nyilvanitottak. Penteken este a halottkamraba tettek a fagyasztoban.

Three days later, they took me out. So on Monday morning they began my autopsy. These 3 days of being out of my body, seeing everything that was happening around, seeing myself, my body, seeing my birth, my parents, my wife, my child, and my friends. I saw their thoughts. I saw what they were thinking, how their thoughts move from one dimension to another.

Harom nap mulva kivettek innet. Szoval Hetfon reggel elkezdtek a boncolasomat. Ezen a harom napon keresztul testen kivuli elmenyeim voltak. Lattam sajat magamat a sajat testemet, a szuletesemet, lattam a szuleimet, a felesegemet a gyermekemet es a barataimat. Lattam a gondolataikat. Lattam hogy hogyan gondolkoznak es hogy a gondolataik hogy megy egyik dimenziobol a masikba.

It was incredible experience. I was in darkness, total darkness. The darkness was pressing. This darkness existed not beyond, but it existed within. What I want say is that the darkness was pressing. And I was in the middle of this fear and I did not understand why and how this darkness existed. Where was I?.

Ez egy rendkivuli elmeny volt a szamomra. Sotetsegben voltam,teljes sotetsegben. Ez a sotetseg valahogy nem kivul hanem valojaban belul letezett. Szoval hogy ugy mondjam a sotetseg nyomaszto volt. Es en a kozepeben voltam ennek a felelemnek es nem ertettem hogy miert es hogyan letezett ez a sotetseg. Hogy hol voltam?

I understood that I didn’t have a body because I didn’t feel it. Then I saw a light. I went through a little hole into that light. But the light was so powerful, so burning. You cannot compare it to anything. No words can explain it. The light was so burning, going through flesh. I didn’t have a body. That was the most interesting part.

Azt tudtam hogy a testemen kivul vagyok mert nem ereztem. Utana lattam egy fenyt es keresztulmentem egy kics lyukon ebbe a fenybe. Ez a fenyesseg nagyon eros volt szinte egeto. Semmihez sem tudom hasonlitani. A feny olyan eros volt egeto szinte athatolt a testemen. De nem volt testem . Ez volt a legerdekesebb benne.

And I was scared of the light, I wanted to go into the shade to save myself from this light. What is that light? I don’t know. It can be called the light of God, it can be called the light of Life. But light is light and darkness is darkness. As a psychiatrist and scientist, I did not think about that. The only thing was that I was in light.

Es en feltem ettol a fenytol valahogyan az arnyekba akartam menni hogy megmentsem magam ettol a vilagossagtol. Mi ez a feny? Nem tudom. Lehet a fenye az Istennek lehet nevezni az elet fenyenek is. De a vilagossag az vilagossag es a sotetseg az sotetseg. Mint egy elmeorvos es kutato en ezen nem is gondolkodtam. Azt az eggyet tudtam hogy hogy ebben a fenyben voltam.

We were not raised in God’s way. You know about the Soviet Union, we didn’t go to church. There were people who went. But they were some kind of limited people. We thought they didn’t know any better that there was no God. But those 3 days of being in the morgue, the freezer, changed all my life.

Mi nem voltunk ugy nevelve hogy az Istenre gondoljunk. Tudod jol hogy a Szovjetunioban mi nem jartunk templomba. Volt nehany ember aki jart de ezek az emberek hogy ugy mondjam azt godoltam hogy korlatozottak voltak. Mi ugy gondoltuk hogy nem tudjak hogy mit nem tudnak hogy nincs Isten. de ez a harom nap a halottaskamraban megvaltoztatta az egesz eletemet.

They begin the autopsy, and started to cut open my chest. That was the first incision, then I opened my eyes, and they saw that my pupils were convulsing, getting smaller. When they saw that my eyes were reacting to light they knew I was alive. They put me back to the hospital and began resuscitation.

Ezzel elkezdtek a boncolást, és elkezdtek felvágni a mellkasom. Az első metszés, utan kinyitottam a szemem, és látták, hogy a puppilaim egyre kisebbek lettek . Amikor látták, hogy a szemem is reagálnak a fenyre tudtak, hogy életben vagyok. Visszavittek a korhazba a kórházba, és elkezdtek az újraélesztésemet.

My lungs were collapsed for a long time so I was put on a respirator for 90 days. My recover did not happened fast, but the life did came back. They discovered was that the life was there during the autopsy, but not all my organs were working. It was hard work for nine month being in recovery, it didn’t happen immediately, but the life was there. But the doctors had to help me survive and help me to regenerate my health and organs.

Mathew 7:13-14) Enter through the narrow gate, for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the Gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few that find it.

13"Menjetek be a szoros kapun! Mert tágas az a kapu, és széles az az út, amely a kárhozatba visz, és sokan vannak, akik azon járnak. 14Mert szoros az a kapu, és keskeny az az út, amely az életre visz, és kevesen vannak, akik azt megtalálják."

[1st Witness] 1.Szemtanu There are people that talk about light, there are people that talk about floating above, there are people that talk about warmth and love, I didn’t feel any of that, I felt none of that. I felt untold terror.

Vannak olyan emberek akik beszelnek vilagossagrol beszelnek hogy lebegtek a levegoben, vannak emberek akik beszelnek kimondhatatlan meleg szeretetrol...En nem ereztem semmi ilyesmit. En csak kimondhatatlan rettegest ereztem.

It is very easy to be an atheist when you’re successful, but it’s very difficult to be an atheist when you’re lying on your death bed.

Nagyon konnyu ateistanak / nem hinni istenben/ lenni amikor sikeres vagy, de nagyon nehez ateistanak lenni amikor a halalos agyadon fekszel.

[2nd Witness] 2. Szemtanu When I came to, Dr. Rawlings said my hair was literally standing on end. Amikor ideertem Dr. Rawlinghoz a hajam is egnek allt.

[2nd Witness] 2. Szemtanu When I came to, Dr. Rawlings said my hair was literally standing on end.

Amikor ideertem Dr. Rawlinghoz a hajam is egnek allt.

[3rd Witness] 3. Szemtanu It was an incredible experience to see that there is life beyond life. Hihetetlen volt tapasztalni latni hogy elet van az eleten tul.

[3rd Witness] 3. Szemtanu It was an incredible experience to see that there is life beyond life.

Hihetetlen volt tapasztalni latni hogy elet van az eleten tul.

Bemondo

Neves Szivszakorvos es Iro, Dr Maurice Rawlings elvisz teged egy utazasra amirol csak nagyon kevesen valaha is beszeltek.

[4th Witness] So I called out into the darkness, “Jesus, please save me!” Because I was either going to Heaven or Hell, there wasn’t anything else.

4. Szemtanu

Szoval kiszoltam a sotetsegbe , " Jezus kerlek kimelj meg engem!" Mert vagy megyek a Mennyekbe vagy a Pokolba , mas lehetoseg nem volt.

[5th Witness] Hear the voice of one that has heard the screams. 5. Szemtanu Halld a hangjat annak aki hallotta a sikoltasokat.

[5th Witness] Hear the voice of one that has heard the screams.

5. Szemtanu

Halld a hangjat annak aki hallotta a sikoltasokat.

[Announcer] This may be your only chance to safely go to Hell and Back.

Bemondo

Dr. Rawlings

Ez egy kutatas az eletrol a halal utan. Az egesz tortenelmen keresztul az emberek josoltak eletet a halal utan. Minden biblianak az alapja az elet a halal utan minden vallas. De hol vannak? Hol vannak ezek? Ki jott vissza hogy megmutassa hogy elet van a halal utan.

===Ronald Reagan ===

Ronald Reagan

Felesege, Elaine Reagan

Ronald Reagan

Elain Reagan

Olyan kulonos volt az arca, lattam rajta a remuletet. Es azt mondta " Nem tudom hogy mi tortenik velem de egy rettenetes helyen voltam" Es en tovabbra is csak mondtam neki hogy te a korhazban vagy, de o csak mondta es mondta nekem " Nem en egy retteneteshelyen jartam"

I took that lamb home with me, it was my friend, the only friend I felt like I had. It was such a friend, in the days and weeks to come it followed me, and it would meet me when I got off the school bus. It came walking through the woods and fields to meet me.

Hazavittem a kisbaranyt es ugy ereztem hogy ez a kisbarany volt az egyetlen baratom. Heteken keresztul csak jott velem kovetett es vart ram amikor megerkeztem az iskola busszal. Jott ki az erdobol hogy talalkozzon velem.

The lamb had come around just wanting to be curious, and in a drunken fit of anger, my father had plunged the tire iron though that lamb.

A barany csak korbejott kivancsisagbol es egy reszeg orjongo pillanataban az apam belevagta a kerekkulcsot a baranyba.

When I saw my lamb, my friend, dead, I began to scream. I ran into the woods screaming, “he’s killed my lamb, he’s killed the lamb!”

Amikor meglattam a baranykamat elkezdtem sikoltozni. Berohantam az erdobe sikoltozva, "megolte a baranyomat, megolte a baranyomat"

But when that minister mentioned “The Lamb” he had my attention. He said that Jesus Christ was God’s lamb, and He died and shed His blood so that whosoever wants to, can have a new start. They could be forgiven and start over.

De amikor a pap kimondta a szot hogy barany odafigyeltem. Azt monta hogy az Isten baranya elveszi a vilag bunet hogy aki akar uj eletet kezdhessen.

That morning, as I stood to try to leave the building, I thought, “I don’t want anybody to see me cry. I haven't cried since I was 9 years old. I’m not afraid of any living thing on this Earth, and no one is going to see me cry."

Azon a napon ahogy el akartam menni onnet, arra gondoltam "En nem akarom hogy barki is lasson engem sirni. Nem sirtam 9 eves koro ota. En mar nem felek senkitol sem ezen a foldon es senki sem fog engem latni sirni.

Dr. Rawlings

Now Out of Body Experiences is a way to get there without dying. How would you like to find out what death feels like, without dying?

Tulajdonkeppen van egy lehetoseg ide eljutni. Szeretned tudni hogy milyen ez az erzes halal nelkul?

Deep hypnosis can get you there.

Mely hipnotizacio eljuttathat ide.

You can go see a guru over in India, learning meditation techniques with a mantra.

Felkereshetsz egy tudos embert is Indiaban hogy megtanuld a technikajat

You can have chemical hypnosis.

Beindithatsz kemikai hipnozist

You can go Skrying with a crystal ball.

Belenezhetsz az Uveggombbe is

You can have electrical stimulus of the brain.

Elektromosan is osztonozheted az agyrendszert

[Please don’t get involved with any of these.]

[Legyszives ne probald ki egyik lehetoseget se]

=== Charles McKaig ===

[Charles McKaig] When I came to, Dr. Rawlings said my hair was literally standing on end, and my eyes had already started dilating. I was absolutely scared to death, I was horrified.

Amikor bejottem a Dr.urhoz a hajam szinte egnek allt es a szemeim kezdtek kitagulni. Teljesen el voltam borzadva.

My life was very normal, I partied a lot. I had joined a church at a young age, because of my parents. I really didn’t realize what church was about, or what accepting Christ was about.

Az eletemet mindig normalisan eltem szerettem partizni sokat. Tagja voltam egy templomnak de csak gyerek koromban csak a szuleim vegett.. Nem ertettem hogy mi a helyzet a templombajarassal vagy hogy mit jelent az hogy Megvaltas.

Egy reggel elmentem a kozeli orvoshoz a szulovarosomban. Arra gyanakodtam hogy szivbajom lehet. Talalkoztam Dr. Rawlings-al. Ott tartott engem kb.3-4 napig es csinalt rajtam egy stressz test-et. Cak arra emlekszem hogy nagyon le akartam jonni a geprol es ez volt az utolso dolog amire emlekezem.

Ezutan minden kellemes lett. Lattam a mostoha anyamat, az edesanyamat. O meghalt amikor en voltam 5 months old. Soha sem lattam meg egy kepet sem rola. A mostoha anyam meghalt kb. 10 evvel ezelott. Soha nem voltam veluk kontaktusban. Csak arra emlekszem hogy nyujtottak a kezuket felem.

I’ve heard it said that you couldn’t carry money with you, and when I was with my mother and stepmother, I saw they had no pockets. I know that sounds weird but I was trying to remember everything I saw.

Sokszor hallottam hogy a a penzunket nem visszuk magunkkal es mikor lattam a mostoha anyamat es az edes anyamat lattam hogy nincsen zsebuk. Tudom hogy furcsan hangzik de probaltam amire csak lehet emlekezni amit latok.

=== Howard Storm ===

Howard Storm was an art a literary professor who was in Paris with his class, when he suddenly had a stomach rupture, ulcer rupture, peritonitis, shock, sudden death, clinical death, resuscitation, and hell experience.

Howard Storm volt egy Irodalom Professzor aki az osztalyaval volt Parizsban amikor hirtelen tapasztalt egy kegyetlen gyomorfalyast hirtelen klinikai halalt ujraelesztest es pokolbamenetelt.

[Howard Storm]

Mathew 7:13-14)
Enter through the narrow gate, for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the Gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few that find it.

13"Menjetek be a szoros kapun! Mert tágas az a kapu, és széles az az út, amely a kárhozatba visz, és sokan vannak, akik azon járnak. 14 Mert szoros az a kapu, és keskeny az az út, amely az életre visz, és kevesen vannak, akik azt megtalálják."

[1st Witness] 1.Szemtanu
There are people that talk about light, there are people that talk about floating above, there are people that talk about warmth and love, I didn’t feel any of that, I felt none of that. I felt untold terror.

[2nd Witness] 2. Szemtanu
When I came to, Dr. Rawlings said my hair was literally standing on end.

Amikor ideertem Dr. Rawlinghoz a hajam is egnek allt.

[2nd Witness] 2. Szemtanu
When I came to, Dr. Rawlings said my hair was literally standing on end.

[3rd Witness] 3. Szemtanu
It was an incredible experience to see that there is life beyond life.

Hihetetlen volt tapasztalni latni hogy elet van az eleten tul.

[3rd Witness] 3. Szemtanu
It was an incredible experience to see that there is life beyond life.

[4th Witness]
So I called out into the darkness, “Jesus, please save me!” Because I was either going to Heaven or Hell, there wasn’t anything else.

[5th Witness]
Hear the voice of one that has heard the screams.

5. Szemtanu

Halld a hangjat annak aki hallotta a sikoltasokat.

[5th Witness]
Hear the voice of one that has heard the screams.

[Announcer]
This may be your only chance to safely go to Hell and Back.

**When I saw my lamb, my friend, dead, I began to scream. I ran into the woods screaming, “he’s killed my lamb, he’s killed the lamb!”**

[Charles McKaig]
When I came to, Dr. Rawlings said my hair was literally standing on end, and my eyes had already started dilating. I was absolutely scared to death, I was horrified.